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[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 134 points 4 months ago (68 children)

Fuck all imperialist and hierarchical power structures. Fuck colonialism and fuck the police. Fuck fascists and the libs that enable them.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 72 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Xi Jinping is a fascist, and I don't think it was liberals that enabled him

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

Xi's also an imperialist and implemented a hierarchical government. Nothing I said was paradoxical. Fuck 'em all.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 months ago

Hear fuckin hear!

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 121 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (23 children)

These "tankies" are conservative right-wing shitbag trolls trying to convince the normal people that supporting oppression and dictators is somehow "left-wing". Do not fall for their conservative bullshit.

Just like any other conservative, every word they utter is deception or manipulation. Tankies are conservative trolls through and through.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 40 points 4 months ago (5 children)

That's a no true Scotsman argument.

There are plenty of actual tankies here. In fact, the Lemmy software is created by tankies and one of the larger Lemmy instances is run by them.

[–] LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

From what I've seen, there's a big divide amongst the tankies. There are those who are basically Stalin MAGA, base their political opinions on Soviet aesthetics and don't consider much the practical implications of their actions. Some simply lash out against mainstream liberal ideology and others are just trolls.

Ane the other camp is made of people who read a lot of communist philosophy and are absolutely convinced the only way to achieve an equal society is by forcing everyone into it. This has its own problems, but they at least have an internally coherent ideology.

That's not to say I agree with either camp. Their ideology promotes a vanguard party which can quickly spiral into "some are more equal than others". Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that. But I do understand where the second camp is coming from. I think the path to a better world lies in trade unions and people coming together to defend common interests.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 26 points 4 months ago (78 children)

When they are actively censoring and banning people who make critical comments about the PRC, the USSR, or even present day Russia, I don't care where they come from.

I was banned from lemmy.ml myself for saying something about the Tiananmen Square massacre.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 81 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy was originally built by and for tankies, so this is completely unsurprising. The .ml TLD on the original instance isn't a coincidence.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 31 points 4 months ago

Lemmygrad was literally made to be an even more mask off .ml

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (14 children)

Weird they made a decentralized platform for one single group.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (6 children)

They made it for themselves but let us set up instances outside of their control due to their morals that software should be open for all. Again proving the best open source software comes from scratching a personal itch.

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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I can see the decentralized platform as a communist parallel. I don't, however, understand the fanaticism for the murdery shit show dictatorship that was Russia/China though.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago (11 children)

I had one of these fucks try to tell me that North Korea is very democratic.

[–] Stitch0815@feddit.org 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They literally have democratic in their name!!1!1!! /s

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Easy, NK: One man, one vote. Thus democratic.

And the man? It's Kim.

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[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

hexbear has entered the chat

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (3 children)

lemmygrad

lemmy.ml too increasingly

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

It's weird that Mao, Sun Yat Sen, and Chiang Kai Shek, were all part of the same pro-democracy party early on in China's civil war.

Mao won the war, Sun Yat Sen got out of there, Chiang Kai Shek was pushed out and became dictator of Taiwan.

China is weird.

Also weird is that one guy caused most of the deaths from famine in both the USSR and China: A conman named Trofim Lysenko, who was lying about having a new science of agriculture... He was bury seeds way further than they could handle then faking his results to keep his job.... Killed like, 30 million people who were ordered to take up his techniques.

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 4 months ago

That's the average lemmy.ml user

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 30 points 4 months ago (38 children)

heck you don't even have to go that far. the second picture can be pretty much every republican president whos held office. When was the last ware we started happen while a dem president was in office?

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[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Oooooh, this thread'll let my blocklist feast for days as the Tankies come out to whatabbout

Edit: Man yall are too kind! Thank you for helping me make Lemmy a more intelligent place! <3

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[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (14 children)

Now, I don't like violence. But even I can see that there's a difference between violence waged for imperialism and violence waged against imperialism.

And you can see the difference too. That's why Obama and Biden always say that their wars are being waged "for freedom". That's why you accept the violence of historical revolutions like the American Revolution.

The problem is, Obama and Biden are lying when they say their wars are for freedom. Their wars are for profit and control.

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[–] kirbowo808@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

omg so true, esp on the OG Lemmy instance, where even the admins/creators of Lemmy on there are tankies.

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (10 children)

That feeling when you get banned for mentioning Russian war crimes in Ukraine.

[–] kirbowo808@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The pain of having to walk on eggshells just in case some admins decide to have a power mod day.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago
[–] DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

People here claiming it's not the case are just wrong. I've been banned from multiple instances and had posts deleted by these bozos. Actually authoritarians lol

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 months ago (13 children)

I can agree with the text while being against the authoritarians pictured.

I just hope people don't think that everyone complaining about US imperialism is somehow fine with Russian or Chinese actions of the same hue.

The US as least has a flawed democracy.

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