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The number of US cities where first-time homebuyers are faced with at least a $1 million price tag on the average entry-level home has nearly tripled in the past five years, according to new research.

A Thursday report from Zillow indicates that a typical starter home is now worth $1 million or more in 237 cities, up from 84 cities in 2019, underscoring America’s ongoing home affordability crisis.

“Affordability has been strained across the board,” Orphe Divounguy, a senior economist at Zillow, said. “We see the largest number of million-dollar starter homes in expensive coastal markets. We see them in markets with very low homeownership rates and we see them in markets with more building regulations.”

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 84 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Precovid houses I could afford with a weeks pay. Now it's the whole pay check. Ridiculous. Wanna fix the birth rate fix this. I'm tired of being born at the wrong time for everything. It's always some bs.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Precovid houses I could afford with a weeks pay. Now it’s the whole pay check.

You mean rent, right? Right?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 48 points 4 months ago (7 children)

No, it was ultra cheap in my region. Cheaper than rent. I begged my partner to by a house since it was HALF our rent for a decent 2014 built house with acres of land. But nooo they want to rent for life. Now that I finally convinced them otherwise I can't afford it. It causes alot of resentment for me.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your partner is a fucking idiot lol.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 28 points 4 months ago

Sigh SO different goals caused by huge family trauma is the story of our relationship. In this case SO Family never maintained home and it looks like on it's way to a Horders house. Literally Bathroom has been torn up for 10 years no work done outside demo. I can see literal floor below me in some parts. And if I offer to help one weekend to finish omfg watch that volcano. Its like reality TV with all the emotions. So the idea of having someone else maintain property was a plus in that traumatized mind. I could go on but I know I'll reach text limit 6x.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My mortgage payment is $1k at 3.5% interest. That is a 15 year mortgage that I have 5 years left on and the payment includes escrow (taxes and insurance) it was in the $850/$900 range but taxes and insurance have increased.

This is a 4 bedroom/2.5 bath with a 3+ car garage in a small town near a largish college town which is 15 minutes away.

We may be getting an advanced transportation research facility as well.

https://ict.illinois.edu/in-the-news/U-of-I-autonomous-vehicle-track-is-building-the-future-of-mobility

There are "better" communities in the surrounding area with much higher prices due to very high school rankings.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hate you. Not really but we're looking at 4 times that if we want to buy.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago (12 children)

A side effect of sky rocketing housing prices is the annual tax liability also goes up, so people on a low or fixed income may no longer be able to afford the home they've lived in for decades. It's the same problem that happens when neighborhoods are gentrified.

[–] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Some localities limit the increase in taxable value to a fixed percentage, which can combat that. The taxable value of my home is something like 25% of the actual value.

[–] ECB@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago

Which has the downside that it locks people into their current home because moving would mean losing their favorable rates.

Rising prices are bad for everyone.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most homes are simply out of reach for most Americans at this point, particularly if you live in a city. Even renting one is extremely expensive unless you move into a smaller town.

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the (rust belt here) midwest it's almost reversed, homes in the rural areas cost much more than they do in the city. But our cities are car centric wastelands, where whole city blocks have been turned into parking lots.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

20 years ago, my mother bought a house for just under 50k. Houses in my hometown, of the same rough location and type, now go for 4x that.

Insane that housing prices have outpaced inflation by such a ludicrous degree. It's almost like the system is broken, the ultra-rich and corporations have found all the good tricks and loopholes and are exploiting them to the detriment of both ordinary citizens and the nation as a whole. Thonking

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

where did all this extra money come from to pay for these homes at these rates?

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 53 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Large-scale investors buying up housing stock to rent out.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Working poor people. Money always comes from working poor people.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

California?

(checks notes)

More than 100 of the 200 are in California. :) Next closest is New York at 31.

Seems like a mostly California problem.

[–] OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It’s not just a California problem. It’s a coastal city problem.

It’s not really shocking. The coast is valuable and limited. Living in an expensive coastal town isn’t really “starter home” material.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You wouldn't say that if you saw what they're selling for a million dollars. House built in the 1940’s with no maintenance except paying off the inspector not to condemn it? Yup that's a million dollars. Falling into the ocean because of coastal erosion? It has an extra bathroom, it's 1.5M.

I joke obviously but I'm not that far off either.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this reminds me of the then they came for me thing. I remember when you could pick up a cheap home if you moved to like iowa. Its not as expensive but its not cheap like before.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Yep. I'm about as smack-in-the-middle as you can get and our home has doubled in value since 2016.

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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Systemic issue, California is just showing the rot stronger than other places. It's a growing issue for the whole country.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I didn't look at the list, but housing prices are out of control in a lot of places, even if they haven't hit that $1 million mark yet. A $750k starter home is just as absurd and out of reach for the vast majority of Americans.

We're telling young people not to have kids and not to buy homes. And it's everywhere, not just California.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Texas is getting hit hard because it's gone from very affordable to super expensive quickly.

Homes in my area have tripled in cost over past 5 years.

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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why would Trudeau do this to the USA

Pierre Poilievre... Probably

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I hate that there are people who would agree with what you said.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

Look what biden has done to Canada!

We need to be liberated!

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago

Good news and bad news...

Good news is everyone in the Middle Class is a millionaire!

Bad news is there is no middle class anymore.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

"A Thursday report from Zillow... "

Fuck you Zillow! You are mostly at fault as to why the housing market is such shit

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm wondering what a "starter home" is in this case.

For me that'd be about 40sqm and 150k €

Are people buying bigger homes than they need?

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Starter home? This is a finisher home! A dwelling of gods, THE GOLDEN GOD

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