this post was submitted on 28 Aug 2023
64 points (94.4% liked)

Asklemmy

43952 readers
759 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I'm trying to find the author and the title of a painting that I vaguely remember.

The painting shows a man painting a woman. It looks like an ordinary self portrait but if you look closer you will see that the painted woman has an arm going out of the picture and is directing the arm of the painter.

I think the painted woman was the master of the male painter?

I think it's from Italy, 17th century (very vague reminiscence here)?

I keep thinking about Artemisia Gentileschi but can't find any link to something similar

Any help would be appreciated, it's driving me crazy

all 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[โ€“] weml@suppo.fi 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] drolex@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes! Well done. Thanks a lot. You're amazing

It is Self-portrait with Bernardino Campi by Sofonisba Anguissola, ca. 1550

[โ€“] weml@suppo.fi 7 points 1 year ago

You're welcome! My first lazy google search gave immediate results (renessaince painting artist portrait of woman italy). :D

[โ€“] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This intrigued me so I tried asking some AI; and in typical AI fashion, they gave me very wrong answers very convincingly.

Gpt4 is convinced it was Vermeer's "Art of Painting", and gave a very verbose - but completely wrong - description of how the woman was directing the painter's arm. The BingGPT version even gave me links.. to websites with completely unrelated paintings.

Google bard insists it was Goya's "The Double Portrait", and gave a very detailed analysis and critique of the painting. It's very convincing, except for the fact that I couldn't find a painting by that name by Goya...

So I'm sorry I couldn't be of much help. I just found the whole thing amusing.

[โ€“] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Scientists: we made this neat thing that approximates human sounding speech!

Everyone: I'm going to believe every word this thing says

[โ€“] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We trained it on social media."

"Why does it keep making stuff up and then getting argumentative if called out?!"

[โ€“] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Somehow the model that Bing uses is extremely aggressive in gaslighting you. It would be funny if it wasn't so reminiscent of some of the most abusive relationships I've seen irl...

[โ€“] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully you're in a better situation now, I'm sorry to hear you've had to go through that.

I guess I'm fortunate that I tend to associate it with some of the worst conversations I've had with people on Reddit rather than anything more personal.

[โ€“] dingus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had someone tell me the other day that they ask AI chatbots for things that they want the correct answer for. They use it as a jumping off point to do more research to find the correct answer. Tbh, I flipped my shit a bit and kept saying "you know it's not designed to just know the correct answer to everything, just to generate sentences from data collected online".

The fact that people use AI text generators for legitimate inquiries is just so incredibly concerning to me that I could hardly believe it to be true. And I don't know how to respond to it.

Even weirder was that Google asked me the other day if I wanted to turn on AI generated answers for my search results. Wtf? Why would I want random convincing sounded nonsense to populate my search results??

[โ€“] drolex@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for trying. It's entertaining to read at least!