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F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device.

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NetGuard - https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.netguard/
TrackerControl - https://f-droid.org/packages/net.kollnig.missioncontrol.fdroid/

How was your experience with them? Differences in battery life etc.

Another doubt:
I had tried NetGuard some years ago to restrict internet access of apps like Gboard n Gdrive(I use the pdfviewer associated with it. Any lightweight foss alternatives to it?).
Was planning to use it again, but saw that eventhough they have a recent update, their Github doesn't allow issues and the latest pull request are from 2023. Is there some change in the app? Have they transferred to Gitlab or Codeberg.

I don't know much details about programming, so asking the doubt here because of the Simple apps transfer issue that I heard recently.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: Mentioned the usecase for gdrive

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[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As someone else said you probably want RethinkDNS.

If you want to get away from Simple Mobile Tools (and you should, they sold out to an ad company) you should look at the fork here https://github.com/FossifyOrg they are on f-droid

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yep. I switched to Fossify Gallery during that time.

Is RethinkDNS better? I did see it and it seems have much more features and focused on anti-censorship. Would it to be too much for my use? In terms of battery usage n all.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it's better since it allows more granular control. For instance, if you have the Wikipedia app you can block

intake-analytics.wikimedia.org

and still use the site normally. You have to decide if that's right for you.

Battery usage is 4.2% on my device.

Edit: formatting

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

RethinkDNS is unique and basically Android magic.

It combines the possibility for Orbot, multiple Wireguard VPNs with different apps and killswitch, firewall rules (like blocking mobile network or HTTP traffic)

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Tracker control is pretty fantastic. It blocks an incredible amount of communication from every app including advertisements.

Examples:

  • I love Gboard and detest Google's data theft. And so, my gboard is now cut off from Google and offline with all features still available.
  • I've made simple games like Mahjong entirely offline.
  • I block dozens of trackers for apps I pay for which I think inappropriately steal information. Why on earth is Paramount+ trying to contact 43+ companies. Or AP contacting 32?

Tracker Control is a very very useful tool.

And... It uses only a tiny fraction of my battery. I'm talking 0.13% the last 24 hours.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Thank you.

It says that private dns must be disabled. Is there a way to use both? Or add it into trackercontrol?

Edit:
The private dns stuff does not seem to be an issue for restricting net access to apps.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Private DNS is currently Auto (and not off). I haven't tried to specify another.

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 weeks ago

TC runs as a (local I assume) VPN service. So doubt it.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a consequence it might also block sone ads so that's a bonus. Either way, I like the level of control.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

More like all ads. Whoops. That wasn't intentional at all. 🤭

[–] donio@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I've been using NetGuard for many years to block net access for apps that shouldn't need it. I haven't noticed any impact on battery life and haven't run into issues other than what one might expect (for example when it turns out that the blocked app refuses to run without network access)

Didn't know about RethinkDNS, looks neat, will give it a try sometime.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Back in times when my device was rooted I used AFWall for controlling app internet access and AdAway for DNS-based ad blocking. Nowadays I use ReThink DNS for both.

https://f-droid.org/packages/com.celzero.bravedns/

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

RethinkDNS is probably better, but I'm currently still using NetGuard Pro and kind of happy with it, but I will soon migrate to Rethink DNS. If you use NetGuard, make sure to use the Pro version, download its hosts file and use it in whitelist mode and display all contacted hosts/IPs for each app (block everything by default, allow only the technically necessary connections!). The more proprietary apps you use, the more tracking hosts you'll see being contacted (lots of proprietary apps contact Google, Meta, etc.). Don't allow these connections.

[–] 10_0@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tracker control let's me know if I can live without an app from the playstore 👍

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] 10_0@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Turn the main switch on in the app, then launch every app, check back in TC to see how many trackers each app contains.

[–] 10_0@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But I'd prefer to have a VPN on instead of TC, but if android had two VPN slots that would be amazing. Also some of the flags are for normal running of the apps, e.g. pipepipe needs to contact YouTube to get videos for you to watch.

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago

TV let's you turn off various flags per app.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I use netguard and whitelist apps for network connections. I haven't noticed a difference in battery usage.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

their Github doesn't allow issues

https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard?tab=readme-ov-file#support

the latest pull requests are from 2023

how does it matter? not every open source project relies on, or even accepts, pull requests.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

So, it's safe? I wanted to know it was. That's why I mentioned the Simple apps issue, where it was acquired by some ad company or so. Saw posts recommending Fossify apps

Thank you.

Which of two apps would you recommend?