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[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 107 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course. No way they are going to poison themselves without poisoning everyone else around them alongside.

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dumbass is paying for my assassimation. Free is free

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

This guy knows how to finance

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

You will be assassimated, resistance is futile.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You all simply don't know the incredible sensation of a ninja poisoning your coffee right after sex.

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Was the ninja there before, during or after the sex? What exactly was his participation? Did he have ninja credentials?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 61 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't think there's a smoker alive who doesn't know it's bad for them and a lot of them would like to quit. It's a sad thing.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Most smokers I've talked to get really defensive about it. "it's not that bad! Sugar is worse for you! It's not like you exercise or anything! I don't smoke as much as so-and-so!"

It's pathetic, really. I'd respect them more if they could just own "this is bad for me and everyone around me."

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's probably a really painful thing to lot of them. It's like someone defending being fat, they must know it's unhealthy and have likely tried to do something about it, without success, so now someone mentioning it just causes them to be defensive. Of course there's no passive diabetes so in that respect smoking is a lot worse since it affects others too.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

personal rant

"we've tried nothing, and we are all out of ideas" comes to mind

I had a relative who was a smoker; I'd visit and they would try to keep it out of sight, but everyone knew. As the years went on, it became more and more of a problem (financially and health), and many tried to push back and help, support, them. Fought like a child at every step. Fucking developed copd and still didn't seem to give a fuck, wheezing and struggling with each breath, until just a couple of years before they died; when it was way too god-damn late to do shit about it.

I don't want to sound like a heartless bastard, but some stupid fucks just won't listen to any reason, and so they need to feel the consequences of their actions. This person would likely still be alive and in decent health, even years later, if they stopped being so fucking defensive/lying/deflective about it.

I get yeah it's hard - I'm a fucking stroke 'survivor' who is suffering every day I'm alive, incapable of doing basic tasks and body control, stuck in the prison that is my own malfunctioned body and brain, so don't go crying to me about how hard it is to do things - but you know what's harder? Waking up in the morning when you're dead.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 months ago

I have very little patience for people who can't or won't do the hard thing. Like, yeah withdrawal is going to suck but sometimes you have to do something unpleasant to get something better.

I mostly keep it to myself though. A lot of people have this problem. Not just about smoking.

Conversations like

"I'm so tired I don't know why."

"When did you go to sleep and get up?"

"Uh sleep at like 3am and up at 7am."

"Well that explains it. Why up so late?"

"... YouTube videos."

"You should probably stop staying up so late watching videos so you're not exhausted all day."

"No."

But I mostly keep it to myself because there's not really anything I can do to make someone listen.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Addiction is a hell of a thing

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 9 points 2 months ago

It's a coping mechanism, and basically everyone with an addiction does it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Sugar is worse for you!

I've heard not uncompelling arguments to this effect. But I'm also not downing a 64oz big gulp every day.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t think there’s a smoker alive who doesn’t know it’s bad for them

I wish this was true. But I live in a country full of people who are more afraid of vaccines than horse roundworm drugs.

There's still a rump base of Americans convinced climate change, seat belts, dinosaur bones, and warnings on cigarette boxes are an evil trick by the communists in government.

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Every single smoker I know says the same. Never start thus shit.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's rarely a mutation that vastly increases healing/cleaning of lung tissue. They get quite old, despite smoking. What do i know, maybe somwhere around 1/100? Not the one-in-a-billion kind of rare.

Edit: guess it was this?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I stopped smoking more than 10 years ago I immediately had a surplus of 300 EUR free cash per month. Two packs a day at 5 EUR per pack at that time.

Being healthier, not stinking like a wet ash tray and having more and better sex are other features of stopping smoking.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How did stopping smoking lead to getting to have sex?

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

More active, more attractive, more fun with harder boner*.

*Seriously. Smoking does something with your blood flow that does not help with erections.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Nicotine constricts blood vessels, and since boners need blood flow it will be harder to get hard, and if you do you won't get as hard.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wow that's insane, even if it's "just" about $20 in USD for the cheapest packs at $30 NZD.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Basically prepaying your chemo.

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[–] ben_dover@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

in Austria you can still get them for around 6 bucks. i recently got a pack in Macedonia for €2.50

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wow! Is there a big black market for cigarettes in NZ? And have these prices lead to a lower consumption?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes to both, it has unfortunately led to an increase in crime, because they're so readily stolen. It has definitely led to a decrease in smoking as well, as a lot of smokers quit for financial reasons.

It's perfectly legal to grow your own, interestingly enough, but not many people do.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Growing it isn't easy. Also you need to dry them a long time.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

buries like 20 cigarettes

sprays water on the mound

by spring I'll be rolling in the dough!

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

When the filter tree grows instead of the nicotine plant you'll be looking a fool

[–] Valk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Not really a black market for cigarettes here but you can grow your own tobacco legally if you really want to go down that road. Smoking tobacco in younger generations is very rare but vaping on the other hand is very popular. The government was touting a "smokefree by X" date that kept moving back as the dates came closer.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah but imagine if the ninjas also gave handjobs

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

And then they slowly feel worse and die?

TIL, I'm a ninja

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Are we talking silky-smooth succulent hands, or those of a construction worker who doesn't buy 30 grit sandpaper because he always carries his own brand?

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The "you'll feel worse and worse" part is pretty blatantly ignoring the endorphin rush that exists here. Like yes you may feel worse on the level, but it's accentuated with moments of feeling pretty damn great, which seems disingenuous to ignore.

I'm not even a smoker, and I was happy as hell when I parents quit smoking, but let's not pretend the choice is as simple as "poison or no poison" without any tangible upsides.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if the artist used coffee for a reason?

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[–] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the UK, for a pack-a-day smoker, that's more like $140 a week.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 36 points 2 months ago

That's the thing - the other service is cheaper!

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does it come with nicotine? Cuz that's kinda why I came in here...at least nicotine gives me a bit of a high while it slowly kills me. Rethink your new product.

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Come to think of it, why is stuff like nicotine gum only marketed to people who wanna quit smoking? Couldn't non smokers also just use it for a mild high?

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They make it taste awful, like worse than a cigarette.

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[–] JohnnyH842@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not me! I'll take a pack of this Chewlie's gum right here.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there some kind of accelerated program I can join

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Man, that on-the-nose anti-smoking humor in 2024... So fucking fresh and edgy.

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