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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 2 months ago

Power to the workers. God hates a scab.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's 20 years ago all over again?

War in the middle east and strikes galore. I keep getting older but the problems stay the same, yes they do, yes they do.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, there's always shit happening in the Middle East and rich business owners fucking over labor.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

And we should be glad unions are still strong enough to strike.

If we ever stop seeing strikes, that's a bad thing for that industry.

[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Good for them! Hope they get what they’re asking for

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Be prepared for Vance to hammer Walz over this strike tonight. I am hoping he's prepared for it. He probably is though.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How would Walz be more complicit than Vance? Neither are in office currently. I mean I'm sure Vance will roll all of the Biden admins decisions on top of Walz to try to make something stick.

[–] TotesIllegit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

If there's anything to learn from US politics for the past, well, forever, it's that some politicians and voters don't let the truth interfere with their narrative or perceived reality.

Springfield, Ohio is probably the best evidence of that.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Same way Trump showed pictures of unrest during 2020 and called it Biden's America lol.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

One of their demands is stiflingly automation which I can't get behind. That's a stupid way to eliminate efficiency

[–] baru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's a stupid way to eliminate efficiency

In case of port/terminal automation the workers usually do not benefit. So it seems pretty understandable that they're against it.

In Europe there's way more automation. Still, workers often tried to prevent it.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Progress is gonna happen regardless of how much they want to slow it down

It only hurts everyone else to make that demand

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well if you don't realize in today's world you are either useful in a way dictated by vastly wealther people or you starve. So in a world with literally zero global compassion (meaning those in power who are in charge of keeping us safe) will cast you aside for an extra buck. If automation and innovation ment the emancipation of all humans to chase their passions, yes I'm all for it. But it's not. The change is to fire the workers to increase profits. That doesn't help anybody.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It'll reach a tipping point eventually

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's what they said 100 years ago and it got a little bit better but it's far worse than even those people would have thought. If you think those in power won't drive everyone of a cliff to make a buck you are in for a surprise. Wealthy people are literally planning to escape earth over giving up any money or power. I'm not doom spiraling I just want more people to wake up and stand up for their fellow humans before it's too late.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

If it becomes a non fictional issue it'll reach a tipping point

As of now as then it's a bit of a Boogeyman. If it grows passed that things will have to change

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Fully depends on the way automation is done. But mostly it is to drive wages down and leave the employees left in less safe conditions and doing the very hard jobs which are hard to or cannot be automated wearing them out faster. Just as supporting roles get more pressure with also less means to succeed in their jobs and more stress.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name -3 points 2 months ago

don't hate the player, hate the game

[–] baru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A salary maximum (as per the article) of 79k USD per year seems low. This as the accident rate amongst longshoremen can be significantly higher than average. It's often not reported on enough (at least in Europe) but significant injuries and deaths happen often enough. This partly because (obviously) a mistake has way more consequences on a terminal vs e.g. working in an office.

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

The pay ranges from $20 an hour for junior employees to around $38 an hour for senior employees. Add in overtime and some people push $200k per year.

Nobody is really capped at $79k yearly

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Good. I hope nobody wants bananas for a while.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Simple, this action will make things more expensive for anything that comes in through a port and will bank things up that go out through a port. The flip side is that Walz will say that Vance doesn't understand the working class man. Especially as an 'elite.'