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Final (?) Debate thread before the election in 35 days.

Debate begins at 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific and runs 90 minutes.

Vice Presidential debates are always tricky since nobody has voted for Vice President in living memory.

Expect Vance to attack Walz on his military service.

Expect Walz to attack Vance on the whole "immigrants eating cats and dogs" thing.

Expect Vance to attack Walz on being an assistant coach, at best.

Expect Walz to roll out "Weird!" at least once.

CBS has announced the burden of fact checking will be on the candidates themselves.

https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10

How to watch here:

https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10

"How can you watch the VP debate on cable? 

CBS will air debate coverage starting at 8 p.m. ET on CBS broadcast stations and affiliates. Find your local station here.

How can you stream the VP debate without cable? 

The debate can be streamed on the free CBS News app on your connected TV or smartphone, on Paramount+, and all platforms where CBS News 24/7 is available, including CBSNews.com and YouTube. 

Debate coverage on CBS News 24/7 begins at 4 p.m. ET."

Edit Impressive how a debate can go when one participant doesn't have mental health issues! Thanks for coming everybody!

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

vance. those economic experts have PhD's but they don't have common sense.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

here we go. hold onto your buts.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Waltz really just needed to say "I goofed." And moved on. That was embarrassing.

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do people actually believe the Vice President can single handily pass legislation?

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're ~25 minutes in, and so far I would say this debate is close, but Walz is edging out Vance. He's not as polished, but he's coming across as more genuine, and he's directly answering.

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[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago
[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Call ing out Vance’s disdain for trump, good

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

They will have the study in 2 weeks. Also, was it done by the evil experts we can’t trust?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There’s the attack on intelligence by dismissing PhDs by basically calling them stupid and replacing intelligence with “common sense”, feels before reals.

The “experts” said shipping jobs overseas would save Americans money?

That wasn’t experts, that was business lobbyists and CEOs who wanted higher profits.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Vance is now pro-abortion exceptions? Are you kidding me?

Edit: typo

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

“Shortage” more like venture capitalism and artificially limiting supply.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

Excellent answer. Humanizing the issue, giving practical information, and raising project 2025.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vance trying hard to pull off Kamala’s faces from the last debate and only looking constipated.

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[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Walz just dropped the pet eating bomb back on JDs head.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 2 months ago

now vance is trying to make it that its the democrats who don't believe in climate change. His argument is ridiculous given the signature ombudsman bill.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Remember that Walz by his own admission is "bad at debates" and that Vance is (an admittedly insane) Yale law school graduate. Walz has done few difficult interviews, almost every mainstream interview Vance has done has been difficult because he has to defend Trump. I just think it's important to have realistic expectations.

I'm honestly not sure what to expect, but I imagine Vance will seem like a more polished politician and debater. He is awkward and supports ugly things, but he doesn't seem to get goaded easily. If Walz can summon his "everydad" persona effectively to make it appear like there's a normal candidate and weird candidate up there and use his knack for a folksy phrase or comeback, that will probably be the "takeaway."

Due to the format, these debates have kind of turned into tiktok video farming events, so let's see who gets the most meme-able sound bytes. Let the games begin.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"We're the cleanest economy in the entire world." What the fuck does that mean?

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 2 months ago

I love vance pointing out that maybe they don't want to be with their baby after its born.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Here we go, reproductive rights.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

exactly . Trump wants issues to run on, not solutions. We just saw this as he tried to manipulate the senate to not fix things so he’d have the problem to rail against and run on. This is anti-American.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There it is, "I don't know the details. But let me tell you about my kids again"

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 2 months ago

woohoo. vance. lets just say its true carbon emissions cause global warming. lets just say.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I'm rootin' for you." What? Rooting for me to do what?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It’s great that vance keeps heaping responsibility on Harris for events that happened while she was VP, events which were nothing a VP could affect.

Also, the world was “stable” under trump because tens of millions of people were dying from covid and the world was locked down. If trump wants to take responsibility for the covid virus, go for it.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

"You said you wouldn't call me out on my bullshit!" - JD

Dude, you admit to lying about stuff.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Why always do this crap, where they act like they're not going to let just babble at their leisure and then they just do it anyway.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

No one’s answering the question.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Springfield Ohio.

Please bring up cats and dogs. You know you want to. Fucking racist.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Walz is friends with school shooters? Lol whoops

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Walz directly quoting Trump's promises about the wall, including the "Mexico will pay for it."

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I will say, I'm enjoying this debate more than I thought I would, simply because the moderators seem competent and both debaters are behaving like actual adults, even if Vance is a makeup-wearing Yale-bot.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 2 months ago

woohoo. walz brought up the bill and how its doing the things vance is suggested they are not doing. looking good.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Not being “used” maybe the wildlife needs it?

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