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I'll believe they actually optimized their PC port when their PC ports start showing some signs of effort at being actual PC ports
No FOV slider after FO76 had one is, to me, a great sign of how little Bethesda actually cares about the platform that keeps them popular (thanks to mods)
They don't want to put the work in for the biggest benefit of PC gaming.
I don't think any PC should be able to run a game well at max settings on release. Leave room for it to still look good five years from now.
And have the bare bones setting be able to work on shitty systems that do need upgraded.
Bethesda just wants to make games that run on a very small slice of PCs, and who can blame them when they can't even release a stable game on a single console? They're just not good at
I don’t think any PC should be able to run a game well at max settings on release. Leave room for it to still look good five years from now.
This is the mentality they want you to have. And it's a shit one. PCs should be able to run any game well when it comes out.
I'm not super interested how Starfield will play 5 years from now. I didn't even play Skyrim past it's 5th release..
But seriously modders have shown they're up to the task op upgrading the engine and visuals over time.
Yeah. But at least you can use console command ( ~ tilde as usual ) to change fov Default values are first person 85 and third person 70 Range is 70-120
SetINISetting "fFPWorldFOV:Camera" "85"
SetINISetting "fTPWorldFOV:Camera" "70"
When you're happy with what you got, issue
SaveIniFiles
Or you can just edit
such a todd move, always with a shit eating grin. "Oh you can't run our game? jeez, have you tried not being poor?"
Thing is, I did upgrade my PC. Starfield runs acceptably, but not to the level it should given my hardware.
I'd much rather hear that they're working on it in a patch rather than be gaslit into thinking it already runs well.
I would agree. They should acknowlege its not well optimized and are working on fixing it, especially with Nvidia cards. It rubs me wrong that they are in denial here, especially given their rocky release history.
Heck that think that 50% of the reason they didnt want even co-op or any netcode. FO76 was a nightmare on relase largely because of that.
While I'm probably in a small demographic here, I'm sitting with a perfectly capable PC, not a gaming supercomputer or anything but a healthy upgrade from standard, and when I started hearing about Starfield I got really excited.
...then I saw all this stuff about compatibility and performance, and when I tried to see where my equipment stood, I was left with the impression that if I wasn't a PC building enthusiast, it was going to be hard to figure it out, and if my computer wasn't pretty high end and new, it was probably going to struggle.
And now hearing more about the performance issues, I've basically given up even considering the game based on possible performance and compatibility issues.
This seems to be the new normal though unfortunately.
It's normal that 5-10 percent generational improvement on a product (6800 XT - > 7800 XT) is celebrated and seen as good product, when in reality it's just a little less audacious than what we had to deal with before and with Nvidia.
It's normal that publishers and game studios don't care about how their game runs, even on console things aren't 100 percent smooth or often the internal rendering resolution is laughably bad.
The entire state of gaming at the moment is in a really bad place, and it's just title after title after title that runs like garbage.
I hope it'll eventually stabilize, but I m not willing to spend 1000s every year just to be able to barely play a stuttery game with 60 fps on 1440p. Money doesn't grow on trees, which AAA game studios certainly seem to think so.
Yes GI and baked in RT / PT is expensive, but there need to be alternatives for people with less powerful hardware, at least until accelerators have become so powerful and are common in lower end cards to make it a non issue.
I'm glad everyone is beta testing this game for me.
I'll wait until it's $20 on steam with all DLC for space ship horse armor.
lol same.
80 fucking euro for the quality of that game is crazy.
Might as well wait for the 5 year anniversary edition with paid mod content included
Same but I'm going to wait until it's $5. Can't give Todd too much money now.
They didn't optimize it for consoles either. Series X has equivalent of 3060 RTX graphical grunt, yet it's capped to 30fps and looks worse than most other AAA games that have variable framerates up to 120fps. Todd says they went for fidelity. Has he played any recent titles? The game looks like crap compared to many games from past few years, and requires more power.
The real reason behind everything is the shit they call Creation Engine. An outdated hot mess of an engine that's technically behind pretty much everything the competition is using. It's beyond me why they've not scrapped it - it should have been done after FO4 already.
Weird how everyone jokes how shitty Bethesda developers are but everyone's surprised how bad Starfield runs.
And don't forget the constant loading screens. A game that has so many of them shouldn't look this bad and run this poorly.
I guess Steve from gamer nexus should upgrade his computer when doing test runs? This guy I swear.
Just get a 4090ti to play the game that looks like it's made in 2011. What's the hold up?
Already preordered a 7900XTXTX ready to run Starfield at 720p 144fps in 3 years.
I installed an optimized textures mod and instantly improved my performance by like... 20 frames, maybe more.
I have an RX 6600 XT that can run Cyberpunk on high no problem. C'mon Bethesda, the game is really fun, but this is embarrassingly bad optimization.
When there are benchmarks showing 0.1% lows at <40fps at 1080p on a goddamn 4090, no, Todd, the problem is your engine.
This game is not pretty enough to push my 3080 ti as hard as it does. I get around 40fps at max settings.
Kiss my ass Todd, my 6700xt and Ryzen 5 5600x shouldn't have to run your game at 1440p native with low settings to get 60fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGD9dT12C0
Get a new game engine, Todd. Bethesda owns id Software. id Tech is right where.
Games are somehow too CPU heavy these days even though they aren't simulating the entire world like Kenshi, just stuff around you, so even though I upgraded my gpu I can barely get to 30fps. Also had this problem with Wolong, Hogwarts and Wild Hearts.
This is what happens when consoles improve their CPUs.
Suddenly they've got more cycles than they know what to do with, so they waste them on frivolous unnoticeable shit. Now you don't have that extra headroom to get you from console 30fps to PC 60fps+. You're on a much more even footing than PCs ever were with the underpowered (even at release) PS4 and Xbox One.
You'll struggle to get a CPU that does double what a PS5 can, and if it's being held back by a single thread performance (likely), there's nothing you'll be able to do to get double that.
I agree, I have an i7-8700k and a 2080super which I'd say are like mid to high level specs and I have a terrible time running Wild Hearts and Starfield. Such a damn shame too as a big MHW and MHR fan I was really looking forward to Wild Hearts and just couldn't run the game well at all. At this point I'm just not surprised when a triple A game runs like dog water on my system, usually these games are free on gamepass I try them out and 5 minutes later I uninstall.
Indies are where it's at nowadays.
My PC runs better games just fine.
Instead of cracking jokes he should improve the piss poor optimization.
Can’t even render 50fps consistently on a Strix 3090OC at 1620p (accounting for resolution scale), what a joke.
Edit: Scratch that, it’s even worse, averaging around 40 fps with HUB Quality settings, so not even on Ultra and my 12900K is nowhere near bottlenecking.
What a joke.
They did lol, and that's a really dumb question by a tech illiterate. Optimization isn't a boolean state, it's a constant ongoing process that still needs more work.
While the frame rate I've been getting is not at all consistent, I do get 45-90 fps, which is quite playable with Freesync. Running 3840x1600 w/5800X3D and 6700XT. Not too crazy of a system. From my understanding, it's the 2000 and 3000 series Nvidia cards mainly having issues.
Idk what you guys are talking about lol. Runs perfectly with my 4090 13900k 32Go ddr5
Who's your liquid nitrogen supplier?
After some tweaking of settings, games runs fine. I shouldn't HAVE to do those things, but it's doing fine now
For reference, 3700x, rtx 2070s. Game heavily gpu bound. 50-60fps, no lag, no stutter , no whatever, honestly I never noticed losing a couple of fps, and that's just in crowded cities/areas, in other place it'll go higher.
What I did :
After doing this, everything has been 100% fine and never had any other issues. Before, I sometimes had slideshow in new Atlantis, heavy stutter, occasionnal massive fps drops. But these 3 things have 100% resolved my issues entirely
dlss render scale 50%
That image guaranteed looks like shit. I am sorry but that is not fine.
I can get it to run just fine, it just looks like a game from the 1990s if only the colors brown, more brown and poop brown were used. I'm sure it's a great game but since the graphics make me throw up 20 mins in and there are no accessibility options I will never get to play it.
Lack of native HDR is pretty disappointing. I need to figure out how to get that working and maybe try a Reshade mod too. I can't stand wandering around New Atlantis in the day, the contrast is so bad it's very unpleasant to look at. It should be a beautiful awe-inspiring future city but the area right outside the lodge with the trees is just not great.
honestly it runs fine on my 5700xt r5 3600 combo. not max settings, I set to "high" from memory as the game defaulted to the minimum for me, but I could bump it no worries. no real frame rate or stuttering issues. I'd love to run it higher but I'm a realist, and new PC is on the cards anyway over the next year
I did, just buy a new one bro.