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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 56 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm more angry at the low-information / single-issue voters who keep voting that political class in.

Example: When I was waiting in line during the primaries this year, I overheard some guy behind me saying that he didn't care about any of the policies; he's just voting for whoever's against abortion. I heard a few "uh-huhs" of agreement and then I cranked up my headphones to keep my blood pressure under control.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I dunno if I can be mad at a stupid person for being stupid. It is their nature. I just hope I can make the generation that supersedes them can be a little smarter.

But I can damn sure be mad at the person manipulating stupid people to enrich themselves at the expense of us all. They're smart enough to know what they're doing, and callous enough to not care.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As frustrating as propaganda victims are to deal with, they're still victims, not perpetrators.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

FUUCK that, they victimize other people on orders from their talking heads and Facebook rumors.

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Free coverage from Ryan Hall Y'all on youtube. He's livestreaming for the foreseeable future with no ads.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Phenomenal coverage from this team. Literally streaming from the front during Helene. They set up instruments along the path to monitor its progress.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

I really like his channel, and he's pretty accurate.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago
[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Shame he got sick and had to bow out. Hope he gets better soon.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago

I am writing this in a camper in an RV park as I monitor the cameras in my house and wonder if and when my shit will get wrecked. The truth is that WE did this through inaction. Yes the political class is to blame but so is most of the rest of the human race. We have destroyed our own home. We are a plague.

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I got my pitchfork ready

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What Political Class? This was Caused by DEMOCRATS! That's MUCH Easier to Believe then the past Half Century of Scientists Warning us this EXACT Thing would happen in our Lifetime if we didn't make Changes and then we DIDNT make Changes!

[–] denshirenji@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Don't you see. They were priming us while they built their space lasers. It was in the plan all along. Convince us all that our actions have consequences and what those consequences will be, then make them happen. To... Umm... To... Hail Satan or something. /s

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago

Peter Kalmus climate scientist, "The thing that I hammer on over and over again because it’s the bedrock for this whole thing, is that the fossil fuel industry is the primary cause. [...] Any solution or basket of solutions that are proposed as a pathway out of this that doesn’t center the ending of the fossil fuel industry as quickly as we can is bullshit, and it’s probably worse than bullshit… The laws of physics guarantee that it will get much too fucking hot if we keep burning fossil fuels. So, pardon my language, but I don’t know what it’s going to take. I’m really disappointed because I thought that at this level of heating, of obviousness, of disaster, that everyone would wake up and realize that none of our hopes and dreams will come to fruition if we don’t have a habitable planet."

[–] Juice@midwest.social 12 points 2 months ago

The political class...how incredibly short sighted. Yes of course you should be furious at the political class, but you should be more angry at the ruling class of capitalists that control the political class. Shell oil invented climate science, they predicted all of this back in the late 70s, and then they knowingly covered it up. They invented climate science and then they invented climate change denial.

The ruling capitalist class can't change course, and they can't run society any longer. The profit motive is no way to organize society, that should be abundantly clear to anyone with eyes. Yes the political class who covered for companies committing environmental destruction should pay, as well as the ineffectual political class who played nice and told you to vote all these years so they could fundraise off of these issues.

There needs to be a new political class composed of us, the working class, who can combat these careerists and grifters directly by seizing control of the factories and forging a new rational system that can meet peoples needs and launch human society into the future, not keep it mired in the old incentives and systems that destroy it.

We can't vote our way out of this, by no possible metric is it possible. We need new forms of democracy and political engagement. For decades they told us if you recycled you could fix this. They were lying. Noone is coming to save us we have to save ourselves, but together as one. Please.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

In my experience, groups of people will ignore inconvenient but correct answers until the problem explodes into their collective faces.

"The point is that we are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield." -- George Orwell

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

What the heck is a "political class?" I get what it's trying to say, but people just use the word class to refer to any group of people, and not what it's meant to be used for (relations to production).

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

If I got furious every time the political class did something stupid I'd never stop being furious, and that's no way to live.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

I am furious.

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I play the "I told you so" card whenever I can, with a proactive and self-reliant spin.

We were hit with a climate intensified storm and lost our home, We moved and were hit again, but less severely, thanks to storm hardening our new home.

This summer, I put in a tornado/hurricane shelter on our small plot. When I showed the FEMA plans to the code enforcers, showing how I was hardening all of our home, garage, and shed, the entire department came to look at the plans. I'm enough of a nerd to appreciate the group of engineers is ooohing and ahhing a common sense solution.

I harden and storm proof, and have put in solar, and drive electric. It does not happen in a day, but step by step, can get better. I cannot change my state and their politics. (they are MAGA), but that does not mean that I have to roll over. I can lead by example, and I can make sure that my family can thrive after the storm

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No. I'm angry at, I guess the Dems or Jews, for using their space lasers to create a hurricane to attack the poor, peaceful, MAGA people of Florida.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is so much to be furious about, even as bad as climate issues are, it’s just one more goddamn thing to be pissed off about our politics.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I honestly don't think anything else will matter as much a hundred years from now.