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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Why care about other countries instead of focusing on our own" is often a manipulative way to say "let's allow xenophobia and sacrifice other nationalities to fuel our own".

And I'm sorry, but the guy in the last picture probably has it much easier than people going through the war in Ukraine.

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The USA shouldn’t be funding wars abroad when it’s own people are starving and homeless. This is not xenophobia. That is common sense. The USA shouldn’t be funding wars period, actually.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago

And also, the US and Europe are having to fund the infrastructure repairs in Ukraine as well. You seem to not notice that Russia is specifically targeting civilian infrastructure before winter.

Russia has clearly stated, multiple times, that Ukraine is basically a gateway into Poland. From that perspective, it makes perfect sense to suppress Putin's efforts in Ukraine.

Russia shouldn't be invading countries period, actually.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The bottomless wallet always opens up for war.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

because the money just goes from one pocket to the other

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

Slight correction: they have billions to hand to private companies who then give a pittance to the poor and needy while naturally cutting a profit and exploiting every loophole and every opening to increase their profits and revenues, because something something corporate efficiency?

[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Missing frame is the government squeezing the cash out of the middle working class before tossing change to that poor man.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you agree that regulatory capture is the problem, cool I thought you were just going to post some links im not going to read.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not wrong to say regulatory capture is a problem, it just doesn’t go far enough. The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

And comically large wheelbarrows of cash being delivered to billionaires

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Estimated Russian army spending is between $85-$105 billion USD. (This has likely skyrocketed since that that estimate was taken as Russia has transitioned to a wartime economy.)

Chinese? ~$212-$230 billion USD.

Spending on military is better put in context of GDP, and actual spending is going to be very different than published or even estimated numbers. (It's likely much more, is what I am implying.)

I actually agree that this money is better spent on social welfare. It's a stupid situation across the board and many countries are guilty of this disparity.

For better or for worse, much of that money goes back into the overall economy of the country supplying the aid. Not all, but most. (This can get complicated due to the lifespan of specific types of munitions.)

What I am saying is that there is a ton of blame to pass around and poking at one country or another is an agenda, not a solution.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

2022 USA military spending: $812 billion

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not counting the black budget and clandestine income from drug trafficking and such.