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Mazda recently surprised customers by requiring them to sign up for a subscription in order to keep certain services. Now, notable right-to-repair advocate Louis Rossmann is calling out the brand.

It’s important to clarify that there are two very different types of remote start we’re talking about here. The first type is the one many people are familiar with where you use the key fob to start the vehicle. The second method involves using another device like a smartphone to start the car. In the latter, connected services do the heavy lifting.

Transition to paid services

What is wild is that Mazda used to offer the first option on the fob. Now, it only offers the second kind, where one starts the car via phone through its connected services for a $10 monthly subscription, which comes to $120 a year. Rossmann points out that one individual, Brandon Rorthweiler, developed a workaround in 2023 to enable remote start without Mazda’s subscription fees.

However, according to Ars Technica, Mazda filed a DMCA takedown notice to kill that open-source project. The company claimed it contained code that violated “[Mazda’s] copyright ownership” and used “certain Mazda information, including proprietary API information.”

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[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wait.... Even if users don't pay for this, their car still comes a WWAN module that is hardwired to their ignition. Yes, I realize it's more likely bolted on to the infotainment system and/or the car's RTOS, but it's still baked in.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends on the manufacturer's implementation, but yeah in recent years they've made it really difficult if not impossible to remove

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Some models are as easy as removing a fuse or unplugging an optional component from the infotainment system. So a "quick" 1-hour process can remove that noise from the car.

But I really shouldn't have to rip apart my car just to remove spyware and nagware.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reupload on Russian github.

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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I give it another 10 years before car makers just fucking give up on fighting this kind of thing.

It’s gonna be a rough 10 years though

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The shitty thing is that if margins are high enough only a very small minority of owners need to subscribe in order for them to break even and then we get stuck with it for eternity like SiriusXM being implanted into practically everything.

And of course there's no way to just 'opt out' of the hardware via trim levels. Shitty industry in general

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Damn, I wish I knew about this workaround before the takedown, I know someone who could benefit from it

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[–] tostos@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago
[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't want anything smart in my car. I want a(n electric) engine that starts with a goddamned physical key that turns in a physical ignition. I want a volume knob that turns with a 1:1 ratio to the volume, ditto for climate control fan speed and temperature. The only thing I want my phone to do in conjunction with my cLilar is display the GPS.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

these car companies oh my god 🤦

[–] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

nope nope nope.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Welcome to Night City.

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