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I don't like the clickbait title at all -- Mastodon's clearly going to survive, at least for the forseeable future, and it wouldn't surprise me if it outlives Xitter.

Still, Mastodon is struggling; most of the people who checkd it out in the November 2022 surge (or the smaller June 2023 surge) didn't stick around, and numbers have been steadily declining for the last year. The author makes some good points, and some of the comments are excellent.

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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I think because when it comes to Instagram or Twitter type social media more people probably use it only to follow accounts and have no interest in being involved in it. So closer to treating it like a rss reader than something like lemmy or reddit. And conversation feed sucks in general.

I use squawker for Twitter. Can't comment, like, sub, or whatever and account follows are just local feeds like Stealth for Reddit or NewPipe or Freetube. And that's all I need from it.

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[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

While I agree with the article and a lot of comments, I am still active on my Mastodon account and I am enjoying it more than ever.

Disclaimer: I'm a white male westerner working in IT. 😉

A friend of mine works in linguistics and education. He was an avid Twitter user and has since migrated to Bluesky and Mastodon. He says, Mastodon is quite complex and clunky but on Bluesky there's not much happening in his bubble.

For me, the quality of the conversation and the regional character of my local instance is a big plus on Madison. On Lemmy, I read a lot on international and tech topics, but on Mastodon, the conversation is related more to my countries politics and my region.

So, maybe they lost a lot of users. But the 14% that stayed are a good start for quite a vivid community.

If anyone has questions on how to get something out of Mastodon, ask away or follow me here: mateng@nrw.social.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

Definently had the feeling of walking into a gay bar and not knowing anyone, like the article says.

I thought it was pretty cool personally because I never interact with gay people (afaik) in real life. And we have computer tech as a common interest, that's why we are on mastadon... But for people who are not into tech, I guess it's not so much to talk about maybe.

[–] vastard@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I kind of don’t want it to succeed to the level of Twitter. All the people I like on Mastodon are there now and the trolls and chuds are mostly staying away because they don’t get the attention of millions of eyeballs.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Honestly my biggest issue is getting randomly banned from trans spaces for expressing my own lived experience with surgery and how I view my own body and gender. They're so "inclusive" that they start excluding people that don't use their very specific language or share their beliefs exactly. They keep kicking people out then wondering where all the people went!

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

That's true of a lot of spaces who have been historically discriminated against. They become so hyper-aware of any criticism, that they immediately think anyone who has an experience different than their own is "the enemy".

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

You may have heard of Folsom Street Fair? The sex & kink positive, all-inclusive, world-famous, 2-day long, San Francisco street fair?

For the first time in over 2 decades of attending my husband and I were turned away from the new, unmarked, Trans & Non-Binary Gate & Safe Space because we weren’t, nor did we identify, as such.

[–] TheV2@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

I prefer Mastodon over Twitter for microblogging. However, I didn't use Twitter for microblogging, but to receive news (directly or at least officially) from game devs, directors and other creators.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's just not many people on there. And I already never used Twitter except to read in-time updates from people and companies, so naturally with many of them being on Threads or Bluesky, that's where I'd go to get that information.

I mean it's just normal to have a "social" part to social media, no?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a baffling comment. There are tons of people on mastodon, more than I could ever hope to keep up with. I have a couple hundred accounts on follow and never manage to keep up. Honestly it could use some sorting.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't want to follow random people though? Twitter was useful as a way to follow specific companies and people to know when say, a service goes down or an update is released.

These people and companies aren't on Mastodon.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is the thing a lot of Mastodon users seem to miss. I was on Twitter because of specific people and companies. They aren’t on Mastodon, so I have no use for it.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Mastodon is 10 years younger and has 0.24% of Twitter’s user-base.

They’re doing great!

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[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I never liked the microblog format so while I've had acouple masto accounts since 2016 I never used it. But i also never used twitter.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bluesky, using ATProto, which as near as I can tell is not used by anyone else, is not part of the fediverse as a result. Since both ActivityPub, and ATProto, and for that matter also Zot, are all open sourced protocols, it is my hope someone will build bridge software that incorporates and provides interoperability between both. Hubzilla would seem an ideal place for that to happen since that is already it's role, to bridge multiple protocols.

[–] nate@social.trom.tf 4 points 1 day ago

@nanook Actually, quick fun fact, there's already bridges. Bridgy Fed offers Activity Pub <> AT bridging, and Mostr offers Nostr <> Activity Pub bridging (and can be chained with Bridgy Fed to offer Nostr <> AT bridging). Not aware of any Zot bridges except the Hubzilla plugin that lets you follow AP users.

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