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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Title reads like tall skinny bitches were wearing robot costumes. What they meant to say is that the robots weren't autonomous.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Didn't they actually have people in robot costumes previously though?

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it was a guy they had come out on stage and do a dance in a morph suit and a helmet.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

Yes and that was just pathetic

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

My recollection is it was the “unveiling” before they built it and it was one person in a costume.

[–] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

🎵 Tesla Optimus! Humans in disguise! 🎵

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 70 points 1 month ago (2 children)

🎶 They look like robots but are actually just guys 🎶

[–] Uschaan@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

🎵 Nerver hungry, never thirsty 🎵

🎼 Launched within a year - or thirty.

🫳

🎤

[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Hahahahaha 🤣

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

But it was mostly just a show.

Attendee Robert Scoble posted that he’d learned humans were “remote assisting” the robots

Serious question: Wasn't it obvious?

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

There was some hate babbling when that robot taxi company in SanFran published that their autonomous cars were assisted by remote drivers who took over when situations were too complex for the robots.

I think remote support and steering will be the most reliable and practical way those tasks will be handled for the foreseeable future. How much assistance the cars will need may diminish but I don't think they will ever be able to work without any human assistance.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sure they will, just put then on rails, make them bigger and available to the public, call it Public AI transport or something

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tele-Reliance Artificial Intelligence Network

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More like No Remote only Railiance AI Robo Taxi Network

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

N.R.O.R.A.I.R.T.N.? I think you missed the joke.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Oh it spells train, i might be overworked, took a while, lol

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Light rAIl transit.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I think you're cooking here, maybe you can get a government grant to fund this

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thats just regular driving with extra steps

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sort of. It just depends on how much the person needs to control the vehicle.

The easiest example I can think of: Imagine lorries traveling along a motorway, and they can do that autonomously because it's "easy", and when they get into a city a remote operator needs to drive them manually into the depot.

Each operator could easily drive 4 or 5 lorries, if only one of those is entering a city at a time. Instead of needing a driver per truck, you only need drivers for the maximum number of trucks that might be entering cities at the same time. For a fleet of 30, that could be 5 drivers.

For things like mining, where safety regulations mean that you want to avoid having people in the mine as much as possible, even having one driver for every haul truck (so yeah, regular driving with extra steps) could be economically profitable if it means you can reduce some other, potentially expensive safety controls.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

this would work mostly in the us where the majority of the time you are in wide highways. aside from that, i see how it can be useful.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

Some of it was and some of it wasn't. I think when they initially came out walking, that was probably autonomous. The dancing was autonomous. The only time we saw evidence that they weren't autonomous was at the end when they were interacting with people at the event.

Problem is, we don't know. We know some of it was. Tesla did not state that any of it was remote controlled, which means we basically have to assume that all of it was.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is it still fraud if no one falls for it?

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Yes

“Fraud” is any activity that relies on deception in order to achieve a gain. Fraud becomes a crime when it is a “knowing misrepresentation of the truth or concealment of a material fact to induce another to act to his or her detriment” (Black’s Law Dictionary). In other words, if you lie in order to deprive a person or organization of their money or property, you’re committing fraud. 

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago

People will still fall for it by treating it like a demonstration of what Elon wants to make, and just an early prototype. The abilities these "robots" displayed are on par with technology that has been available for over 20 years. They don't realize the parts missing, filled in by human intervention, are the most difficult parts to create and literally cannot be done without a major, generational breakthrough in AI.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You overestimate the general population. And especially "investors".

The cult of Elon remains real.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

in my defense, your honor, i didn’t think anybody would actually fall for it

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The cars were probably also being nudged just in case.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

like a shepherd he said, you can run 10 or 20 of the cars.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

Less like surrogates and more like The Muppets

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

At Elon's Tesla robots are secretly humans, and at Elon's Twitter human users are secretly bots.