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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Win10 gets Copilot as well. Pushed without consent. Likewise if you use a program like InControl to lock W11 to 22H2, you can keep copilot at bay. For a time.

Switching to any other platform is better though. Screw them.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

There are many many business customers that can't use copilot. They are not going to tell them to just lock into an old insecure version. You'll be able to disable it, at the very least, on a Pro license using Group Policy.

Like everything else Microsoft does that has legal implications regarding PII.

[–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I'd love to, but I am too dependent on my VST Plug-in library on Reaper. Running them through Wine/Carla doesn't cut it.

I played with the idea of getting a Mac for music production, and installing a Linux distro on my desktop for gaming and video editing. But I couldn't really justify dropping 1000-2000€ on a laptop with inferior performance to my desktop.
Looked into used specimen, but getting a 3-year old model only gets you a couple more years of software support.

So Windows 11 with a local account and many policy modifications it is.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] d4rko@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, Chris Titus tool did it for me.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Christ Titus the comedian?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Chris Titus the IT mastermind

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Are these the same person or is there two Chris Tituses

I'm so confused :(

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Two different people, though not without similarities

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I got this joke lol

Edit: the images weren't showing up for me at first and were just a bunch of numbers so I thought you were making a joke about memory adresses

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

Lol, that'd be good

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Completely bullshit, garbage clickbait title.

Windows 10 is near EoL, however that's for Home/Pro/Enterprise versions, you can move to one of those for more time:

  • Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC - 2027
  • Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC - 2032

To be fair I don't really believe that Microsoft will kill it when they say they will. And even if they do it, porting security updates from those LTSC versions into the regular ones might be doable.

Now on Windows 11:

You can just disable copilot and all the other garbage using group policy, now that hard and you'll end up with essentially Windows 10. https://www.xda-developers.com/how-disable-microsoft-copilot/

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

porting security updates from those LTSC versions into the regular ones might be doable.

The way will likely be to just adjust some registry keys to force Windows Update to pull from the LTSC update channel. That's been the solution for ages, no "porting" needed.

Group Policy

I've lost count of how many of these articles have been posted on Lemmy screaming that the sky was falling over something you can switch off with three clicks and a scroll (Start, Settings, Personalization, scroll to the bottom and click the final switch). Group policy may be beyond the general skill level, which makes the constant Linux suggestions even more laughable.

Like you, I regularly direct people to group policy (and even how to safely activate Windows with a fake Pro license so they can get Group Policy). Fighting an uphill battle.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Group policy may be beyond the general skill level, which makes the constant Linux suggestions even more laughable.

Ahaha yeah, I've said that SO MANY times. People have issues setting a few toggles on a point-and-click UI but then it is okay to suddenly move to a entirely different OS that most likely won't have the software they're used to and requires terminal skills to deal with most things. Laughable indeed.

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

requires terminal skills to deal with most things

Have you actually used linux? Terminal is optional. Most linux users use it because it's rad, not because it's necessary.

Digging through the registry or searching ad laden websites to find where a new setting or old menu is buried is more time consuming than typing man <command> or tldr <command>. The latter is to improve my system and the former to prevent a private company from making it worse.

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[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't group policy tweaks gets reverted on update or something like that? I heard about this group policy workaround and also heard something that said it wasn't that great of a solution.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, that’s a myth. Registry edits may revert in some cases yes, but group policy is different as it designed exactly to configure machines in a stable way.

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Glad to hear that. After trying to linux and not having a great experience, I am forced to comeback to Windows. Will try these out next time.

On that note, do we have some good Windows forks/builds which remove the bloat for us? I heard about lot of them, not sure which one is actually worth trying.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

You should not trust those builds. Everything you need to know is documented here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services

Windows 10/11 Enterprise is recommended as that's the version where Microsoft can't fuck up.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Probably gonna keep my desktop running win10 by then because I'll hopefully have a new desktop by then that I can easily set up Linux on. Got too much on my desktop to move over and I certainly don't know any tools able to make the process any easier.

Probably gonna just use it as an experimental PC that I can test out server related things on.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm adding debian to the drive on a ten plus year old laptop as we speak. It's taking forever because I have to do part of it manually but usually it takes less than an hour and is mostly idiot proof (my current project is on its 3rd week so I am just a special kind of idiot) but a small lightweight distro alongside the windows partition is an easy way to give old hardware new life without migrating data.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

I would add a small partition, but I'm always anxious about stuff like that because I seemingly always hear things about windows messing with Linux partitions and breaking dual boot. That, and I am running out of space on my 1TB drive it came with. Two or three years of me using it thinking that I'll never fill it up before I upgrade computers and suddenly I have to worry.

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You could just add another hard drive, install Linux on it, than access all your files on the old hard drive exactly where they are.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

If nothing else, I might look into something like that.

[–] obelix@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I’ve used Linux on and off for a long time but I’m stuck with Windows for now because redoing my Plex library would be a huge ball-ache.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Can't you export your library / media settings and only have to change file paths or mnt points?

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