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Google, Amazon buy nonexistent mini nuclear reactors for AI data centers (pivot-to-ai.com)

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BRING IT ON NITPICKY NUKE NERDS

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Of all the things that will never happen, this is the one that will never happen the most.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I give it slightly higher odds than AGI.

Edit: or cryptocurrency replacing fiat

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 13 points 5 days ago

At least is technically feasible (although completely impossible to do in that timeframe)

Unlike the cold fusion energy deal that Microsoft greenwashed last year that's pure science fiction (invent, create, test and build a cold fusion reactor in just 4 years: impossible unless they got a time machine or found some alien tech in a remote cave)

[–] BasiqueEvangelist@mstdn.social 4 points 5 days ago

@dgerard somebody should found a startup and sell ASMRs to Google and Amazon

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I got into the wrong business.

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[+] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world -7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Alright so you can have them funding the next generation of nuclear power, which would eventually bring this new form into the mainstream by having them deal with the costs associated with ironing out any issues they have and very likely making it economically viable…

Or…

These tech companies can use fossil fuels to power their AI. Like it or not, they arent going to stop developing AI and data centers. They need the power either way. Solar and wind won’t keep up with that level of demand and tech companies know it. So choose. Nuclear, or fossil fuels?

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You're correct that I can't stop them from making pants on head stupid decisions, but I'm not going to stop making fun of them.

very likely making it economically viable…

They're going to fund currently economically nonviable nuclear plants to power their currently economically nonviable genAI schemes? Over the time horizon of ~~25 years~~ a decade (edit: misread the article) before they scale up energy capacity at all past the rnd stage? Maybe pants on head is too generous.

[+] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world -11 points 5 days ago (23 children)

I’m not crunching the numbers over here, but they must be making money off AI if they’re doing this. I’m sure they have further plans that aren’t public yet.

I’m not a fan of AI, so if Microsoft or Google ends up in a dumpster fire because of all this I will never stop laughing about it. I just don’t expect it.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

but they must be making money off AI if they’re doing this.

They don't have to be, just the fear of another platform developing the same AI SaaS shit which could drive customers away/make it harder to convince C-level management to up their spending could cause fomo at the people building the AI. similar as with the same with the cryptocurrency/blockchain shit. Think we linked an article talking about things like this here a short while ago.

E: Here

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 5 days ago

I’m sure they have further plans that aren’t public yet.

Nah dawg you’re just too stupid to see how bubbles work.

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 13 points 5 days ago

Meta's happy to give away models for free, so models are evidently worth $0.

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Try option three. No one is going to pay for any of that because LLMs are useless machines.

Fun Fact: it took 42 years to start Watts Bar Unit 2.

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