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We’ve been anticipating it for years, and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the extension will soon no longer be available because it “doesn’t follow the best practices for Chrome extensions”.

Now that it is finally happening, many seem to be oddly resigned to the idea that Google is taking away the best and most powerful ad content blocker available on any web browser today, with one article recommending people set up a DNS based content blocker on their network 😒 – instead of more obvious solutions.

I may not have blogged about this but I recently read an article from 1999 about why Gopher lost out to the Web, where Christopher Lee discusses the importance of the then-novel term “mind share” and how it played an important part in dictating why the web won out. In my last post, I touched on the importance of good information to democracies – the same applies to markets (including the browser market) – and it seems to me that we aren’t getting good information about this topic.

This post is me trying to give you that information, to help increase the mind share of an actual alternative. Enjoy!

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[–] helloworld55@lemm.ee 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (20 children)

Can I just add a different perspective on this?

My dad is really old (like early baby-boomers), and I am basically the in-family tech support when the home computer starts acting strange.

Well, right after google rolled out this update, my dad clicked on what he thought was an online shopping link. It was actually an ad for a toolbar add-on. ~~Queue~~ Cue like 6+ hours trying to uninstall that add-on and the bundled software.

I never had to worry about that in the past with him because I had u-block origin installed. Now I need to find something else that can run quietly in the background. And probably a better antivirus.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think you mean cue, not queue.

[–] helloworld55@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Nooooo, but MV3 is all about security!

This is how I know this is bullshit. I was reading the article and thinking "So, let me get this straight. The ads aren't the security risk. It's the ad blockers!"

Sure. Pull the other one.

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[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Kids, remember, Google is an advertising company.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 73 points 3 days ago
[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hardened Firefox, here I come.

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[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 166 points 3 days ago (9 children)
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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 149 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We kept Firefox alive for you all these years. You're welcome.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 46 points 3 days ago

Honestly I'd say the Internet isn't safe, and it's because of Google, fuck you Google. It's not just the wine I've been drinking, it's true dammit.

[–] underthesign@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (34 children)

Firefox needs to work on ensuring seamless compatibility with more websites, web apps and so on, because I'm personally very bored with my kids' schools and related services sending out emails and forms with links that simply won't open in FF but are clearly expecting Chrome or Edge where they work fine. Yes, this is on the lazy developers, but if FF want wider scale take-up outside of geeky niche groups then this is the stuff they must fix.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (25 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If your site doesn't work on Firefox your site doesn't work. As web developers your job is to develop applications for the web not for one specific browser. This goes double for essential services.

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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What you're talking about is webcompat and is a very complicated issue. Also I've talked to some Mozilla devs who gave me multiple examples of Chromium rendering something wrong, and they'd have to intentionally break Firefox to render it incorrectly too, just so the end user would get a more consistent experience. Of course these issues happen more and more when things are only tested for one browser.

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[–] yoasif@fedia.io 25 points 3 days ago

Firefox can't fix all the broken sites in the world, but they do investigate issues reported to https://webcompat.com

You can help by reporting sites that don't work for you.

If I create a blank HTML file, every single web browser will open it perfectly fine. If I add browser-specific things that firefox doesn't have, it is my responsibility to create an alternative that keeps the site working. A user shouldn't have to switch browsers due to incompetence of webdevs.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay that's fine, but when websites are effectively writing

if user_agent_string != [chromium]
     break;

It doesn't really matter how good compatibility is. I've had websites go from nothing but a "Firefox is not supported, please use Chrome" splash screen to working just fine with Firefox by simply spoofing the user agent to Chrome. Maybe some feature was broken, but I was able to do what I needed. More often than not they just aren't testing it and don't want to support other browsers.

The more insidious side of this is that websites will require and attempt to enforce Chrome as adblocking gets increasingly impossible on them, because it aligns with their interests. It's so important for the future of the web that we resist this change, but I think it's too late.

The world wide web is quickly turning into the dark alley of the internet that nobody is willing to walk down.

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[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yet another reason to never use Chrome

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[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 96 points 3 days ago (43 children)

Finally made the switch to Firefox just 2 days ago. Great so far.

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[–] Mobiledecay@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

Welcome back to Firefox everyone! At least if you're as old or older than I. 😁

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

Also Firefox mobile has nearly all of the extensions as the desktop version so it's more similar across all of your devices. Personally, I use LibreWolf on desktop and Mull on mobile, but they're just tweaked versions of Firefox with some bloat and telemetry removed and preconfigured to be more private.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

It blows my mind that there are major companies that are actively, and very publicly- working their asses off to undermine the interests of their own customer base. And not only are they still are enabled to exist- they’re profits are constantly growing. Which means, despite their nefarious and intrusive updates to their services…. People are eating it up!

Nothing will change until people do the work to make that change.

Take YouTube for example:

They have screwed people over time and again. From their content creators, to those that enjoy watching them. Yet- those that hate it so much would seemingly never organize themselves to boycott their services on a level that will ever hurt them.

So they continue to do it unstopped.

Nothing changes until something changes. It isn’t ever easy, but if you want it to happen badly enough, it is always worth it.

All it takes is for someone to stand up and take the reins!

(I cannot be that person as I have ADHD and will probably forget that I wrote this come later this afternoon)

Well said. Also maybe you forgot you wrote the comment by the afternoon, but it reminded me that I've been meaning to finally research more into adhd for better managing it, so thanks!

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