I've had an unreasonable number of arguments against people who seemed to think animal was a synonym for mammal. Thankfully, we're now in an era where you can look it up and show them now mobile data is cheap, so it's become a winnable argument.
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Except they still don't care, and resent you for edumacating them. Whatever you say, they "win". Welcome to the post -information age.
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Some folks believe that fish aren't animals, either.
The state of California consider bees as fish.
I thought you were kidding but no, they do and the reason is otherwise they wouldn't fit under environmental protection laws.
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How is there 4 posts but one reply? Who said something first, the "bees, not animals" thing?
the opened reply is "bees, not animals" and the replies below belong to that
I feel like bees are a bit of a grey area. We're not eating them, we're kind of like landlords that give them a nice place to stay and they pay rent in honey. I'm not vegan so I'm not quite sure what the rationale is for bee stuff.
I don't think comparing beekeeping to landlordism makes it sound very ethical at all
Best friend's a vegan who raises bees. He doesn't clip wings or use smoke. From what I gather he basically just maintains their boxes, feeds them sugar when it's too cold for em, and collects honey when it's time. Someone is about to come along and say "he's not a vegan. Sounds like a vegetarian" and then I'm going to think "sounds like you're gatekeeping a lifestyle like it's a religion, and not even all vegans who don't use honey agree on whether or not a vegan can use honey" but I won't, because I don't wanna get wrapped up in the nonsense.
But either way, yes, some vegans do use honey. And some, like that theoretical commenter, don't eat anything that casts a shadow.
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I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with my landlord harvesting my vomit as rent.
"I'm eating it, I promise it's not a sex thing."
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