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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 56 minutes ago

Oof. I just realized something. There must be people whose job it is to translate the transcription of Trump's speeches into other languages. Journalists might have to do it for media in their country. People working in the diplomatic / spy apparatus of their countries might need to track what an American president / presidential candidate says in case it is important to their national interests.

Can you imagine having to do that, to structure what he says so that it vaguely makes some kind of sense in another language?

I also wonder if there's a way that a screenwriter could organize, punctuate and annotate this mess so that an actor could deliver these lines the same way. Like, it's obviously a word salad, but there's a variety in the kinds of emphasis he uses for certain words or phrases. Since there's no "natural" way to say all those words, I wonder if there's a way to transcribe it so that an actor could say the words in the same way without having to listen to the speech.

rocket ships that land within 12 inches on the moon of where they wanted to land

That's Japan, not Elon.

[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 63 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

HOW THE FRESH HELL IS KAMALA SEEN AS INCOMPETENT AND DUMB WHEN THIS MAN BREATHES? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 54 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I realized in a reddit argument a while back that one huge difference between Trump supporters and the rest of us is: Trump supporters expect less from Trump. Hold him to a lower standard than they hold themselves or non-supporters to.

In the argument, I had a supporter tell me that "raking the leaves" was advocating wildfire management -- including controlled burns. And the person followed it up with remarks along the lines of, "you should have been smart enough to know that's what he was saying."

Which was crazy to me because:

  • they were measuring my intelligence by my ability to come up with numerous unique rephrasings and potential meanings to Trump's words
  • they were scoring higher than Trump by their own intelligence metric
    • Trump could only come up with "raking the leaves" and the commenter came up with "as a country, we should be putting more resources into wildfire management", a much more coherent and intelligent phrasing
  • in expecting me to be able to read multiple meanings into "raking the leaves", this person was ALSO expecting me to score higher on this measure of intelligence than Trump. And calling me stupid for not outscoring Trump.

Basically told me that if I wasn't smarter than Trump, I was stupid.

I pointed this out to them and never got a response.

Anyways, different standards. According to Trump supporters:

  • if you're no smarter than Trump, you are an idiot;
  • if you're no kinder than Trump, you are sadistic and malicious;
  • if you are no more effective than Trump, you are useless,
  • But Trump is the smartest, kindest, most valuable person there is.
[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I need to save this, because it's so well put.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago

This is the best explanation of his cult that I have ever seen! Wow. Honesty VP Harris should just read off your explanation in her next attack ad.

No joke, you should consider cleaning that up and posting it.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 116 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Probably pointless fact check for the non word salad part:

Elon has never landed anything on the moon.

Further context:

Elon has received roughly $3 billion of taxpayer money before 2022 (and another $1.7 billion in 2022) to create a system capable (Starship + Heavy Booster) of delivering and returning humans to and from the moon by Q1 2025.

It was supposed to have conducted an orbital flight test in early 2022, and so far has only accomplished a few semi-successful suborbital flights, which have prompted Elon to downgrade the supposed mass to orbit capacity in half, from 100 to 50 tons, (proven cargo capacity so far is 0, even for suborbital), and state that there will now be a Starship/Heavy Booster 2 and 3, entirely new and untested rockets which appear nowhere in any of the government funding agreements.

In orbit refueling has not been demonstrated, Starship has not returned from orbit or suborbit or the moon or anywhere other than small test hops without exploding on impact or melting in reentry...

...when it should have completed an uncrewed Moon landing and return about 8 or 9 months ago, and by now should be human rated.

... And this is the person Trump wants to be in charge of finding and eliminating wasteful government spending.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 37 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You can't fact check dementia

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

We can try!

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You can try, but the dementia will always win as it's a progressive disease with no cure.

[–] Bertz@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 hours ago

Dementia is a syndrome, multiple symptoms correlated from diseases, like Alzheimer's...... nbd tho

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The king of false promises.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah the fourth year in a row he said fully self driving cars are going to be market ready in a few months it really sank. Also remember when Google was trying to develop a self driving car and got millions of dollars and several years into the testing process and concluded modern technology is so far away from being able to make a self driving car that they stopped trying for the foreseeable future? That's fascinating.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

What I find really wild how few years ago he was basically trying to appeal at the green crowd to sell his cars as a progressive revolution. But he his showing his real self now to sell to conservative people. It shows that it's never really been to be greener, but only to make money. I've always hated to see people seeing him has a demi god. As it's really unhealthy to see anyone that way.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 18 hours ago

Additional info: The Beresheet lander that crashed into the moon a few years back was launched on a Falcon 9, but after that, he had nothing to do with it. It also crash landed.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 80 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I've had more normal conversations with people on the tail end of a 3 day meth binge and I am not exaggerating in the slightest

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

My mother with early onset dementia addicted to ambien has similar coherency.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Unironically same, I've had convos with multiple meth and fentanyl addicts that make more sense.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago

Before the disease takes its toll, I have found alcoholics and addicts to be genuinely smart people. Priorities are usually a bit out of whack, but other than that, I usually can't say anything too bad unless there is some serious criminal activity at play.

While I don't go to AA anymore due to some core philosophical disagreements, there is still some good content to be found. Mainly, that alcoholics and addicts are simply sick, in the context of this discussion.

Once you get past the outward issues usually on display, there are real people behind the mask of addiction. Unfortunately, it's only a matter of time before the brain-rot kicks in and most hope is lost. (I have seen some really cool recovery cases though.)

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 22 hours ago

Give this man the launch codes. Just put me out of my misery.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

What are these circles we are filling up with press?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 17 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

He's referring to the "rallies" that Biden would have durring covid where small tables would be set out with a circle drawn on the ground with lots of space in between.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

My wife has an apple watch, I assumed he was talking about those circles.

To be clear, that's the only sense that people have managed to make of it. That doesn't mean that was actually what he was referring to.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So he's selling that old lie that getting a big rally or parade going is equivalent to votes cast and any numbers outside of those expectations is somehow a terrible injustice?

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 2 points 11 hours ago
[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It’s hard to tell if it’s total nonsense or just nonsense if you’re not up to speed on the Fox Cinematic Universe

Aka, total nonsense but the long way…

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't heard that one before.

But my grandmother will definitely hear about it soon

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Hell yes, me too! My right wingers are gonna feel the sting from that one!

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 39 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

The circles he may be referencing were from 2020 when corona was at its peak, Biden had a town hall or something outside and they had very few people there with everyone spread out in their own circle to socially distance if I remember correctly. Still has not a damn thing to do with Elon or Rockets, just that there were some circles in each story. But you know, he was doing the weave again so he thinks he sounded smart at least.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Me when I manage to decipher his word salad:

[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Alright. I'm Black and I have to say this scene does make me laugh, albeit I don't know how to feel about it.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'm white, and I think what makes it funny, like most of the movie, is the absurdism of it. It only works by having an old white lady being the one who understands black slang

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

That old white lady was the actress who played June Cleaver of "Leave It To Beaver" - a 50s(?) b&w white-bread conservative-family-values-americana TV show

That was the biggest part of the gag.

[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I know why it's funny. The joke is extremely obvious, but it's like laughing at Cartman being racist in South Park. The show is hilarious and I feel "bad" at laughing at some jokes. That's all.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Attempting to explain what Trump means is sanewashing and makes him look less incoherent.

Just let his words speak for themselves.

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, remember that part I said it still made no fucking sense? I do.

Honestly I feel like trying to find the root of his bullshit and how specifically it's so radically off-base is actually kind of an important part of the project Otherwise the follower crowd will just claim that he's not being given a fair shake, when he was obviously talking about (insert a brief and misleading explanation of the circle thing that actually does try to make it make sense).

That's what the whole narrative is built on, after al I'll.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Thank god you explained it. I have read it three times and I still don't have a fucking clue what he was after with that part.

I thought he meant the circles of Hell and just lost count. Either way, he thought they were beautiful, and he's sad that they couldn't fill them up!

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is Sonic the Hedgehog confirmed. He just needs his beautiful rings!

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Sonic would beat the shit out of Trump without a second thought. He isn't a Freedom Fighter for nothing.

[–] vovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago
[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like he's just listened to War of the Worlds? Cylinders came from Mars, slowly unscrewed themselves and out popped critters larger than a bear, with snake-like tentacles.

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Fake news. The chances of anything coming from Mars, are a million to one he said.

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