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[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

and this is lawful? actually legal? What the hell is USA??

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

It's legal because they're paying for registrations not votes, you can't see who someone voted for just that they voted and if they registered as a party member or independent.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

lol he will never deliver.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 hours ago

$100 ehh, I guess cards against humanity did get to him :D

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

can we sign up, take his money, and vote Harris?

if a million people do this it adds up fast

[–] monke@lemmy.cafe 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That might make it easier for him to claim election fraud. He might try to argue about how the election results don't match with the number of people who took his money.

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 hours ago

Such a dumb argument but MAGA would 100% believe it and dash their lives against the US government to make it true.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 34 points 11 hours ago

the guy who famously never pays his vendors or his rent until he gets evicted is promising to send money?
wow sign me up...

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 45 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No water or other assistance for voters in contested areas.

Here’s $100 to say you like trump.

Man, this is a fucked up place.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

No, say you like trump, sign this and that, ...

...

...

then maybe, I mean who knows right? Maybe get paid. Donald always pays his debts so why shouldn't his helper do it too?

Right?

[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 54 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I'm going to slap the next person who tells me racism is over and everyone is treated equal.

How the hell is this even LEGAL? This is the state of our country? Really? Blatant bribing? Corruption? And it's STILL a close race?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Racism is over and everyone is treated equal.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

the fucker is basically telling how he is going to cause horrible damage to americas economy yet those people still want to vote him. I wonder if they just want to destroy their country so awful people can remake it into something terrible. If they succeed, soviets will win in the end, as didnt they blatantly gloat at some point how they will destroy america from within? This whole thing has been fueled by russia from the beginning after all.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 72 points 17 hours ago

I really liked this line:

But it’s also possible that Musk is simply doing the rich guy thing—and the classic rich tech guy thing—of walking into a new situation and assuming all of his ideas are important.

What a chud.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 101 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

Jesus titty-fucking Christ. If someone like George Soros were paying people to vote for Harris, right-wingers would be losing their collective shit and flinging it at the moon.

The double standard is amazing.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 25 points 15 hours ago

They don't care about truth, or consistency. They care about power. Specifically, the power of their in-group.

Conservatism has been aptly summarized as "There must be in-groups for the law to protect but not bind, and out-groups for the law to bind but not protect." That's pretty much the whole thing. Conservatives are, in a kind of fundamental way, bad people. They value the in-group far too much.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I thought I remembered Michael Moore buying ramen and stuff to get students out to vote and he got in trouble for that. https://www.acslaw.org/?post_type=acsblog&p=1035

Turns out it was overturned or ignored, but didn't stop republicans from whining.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 18 points 19 hours ago

…which, at this point, makes it completely predictable.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago

The double standard is amazing.

"Yes, but I'm right."

They think their collective belief in the correctness of their group identity is more important than law. This explains why right-wing politics doesn't care about consequences.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 142 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

pretty fucking close to vote buying if you ask me

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 78 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I’ll take his money and then not vote for Trump. It’s not like he can tell.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago) (2 children)

He can, though. In another post about Cards Against Humanity's project, they explained how criminally easy it was to create a PAC, request and acquire voters information. They can see your registered voter information and who you've voted for in the past.

Edit: Someone corrected me that they can't see exactly who people voted for, but, they can see party affiliation, and if you voted. Going by that data, they can assume you voted for the party you're affiliated with.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Voting records don't show whom you voted for. They do show party affiliation, which they can infer from.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

Sorry, so they can see if you voted and party affiliation, and based on that, they are paying people more or less $, assuming affiliation to a party ment they voted for that party.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'd like to see that source. The voter information should be limited to their registered address and what primary or caucus they voted in - not their individual votes, which are anonymized. At most, a PAC should only be able to infer (from the voter information alone) a likelihood of which political party the voter is associated with. Now, if they take that voters info and combine it with open source intelligence, social media, advertising intelligence/marketing data, they can make much better assumptions.

At the locality level, the voter is issued a serialized ballot. The local township, city, whatever keeps a log that "voter x received ballot Y", but that's where the association ends. Before being tabulated (read by the optical scanning machine and dropped into a sealed chamber), an election official removes to perforated strip containing the serial number, and the voter deposits the ballot (deserialized) into the tabulator. There is no input to the tabulator to indicate which ballot, or which voter was just processed.

The registration receipts and ballots (without serial numbers) are kept by the locality under seal for a designated retention period.

Source: local election official

[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

I believe they said they bought more useful information from a sleazy data broker too.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

For some reason when I upvote posts they dissappear for me even if I search.

The website linked that CAH made was apologize.lol and they had a FAQ section saying how they and Musk are doing this with their PACs and how it should be illegal. Looks like they changed that site too, since I first saw it a few weeks ago, I can't find that faq section anymore

Cards Against Humanity are paying people more or less depending on how they voted last election, according to the records they collected.

Edit: found solution to the dissappearing upvoted posts

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 63 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, I kinda hope he can tell. I'd love for there to be a paper trail of me accepting $100 from Elon and then voting for Harris. Hell, I'd put the money toward renting a highway billboard as close to the Tesla HQ as possible showing the receipts. Fuck him.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 46 points 19 hours ago

Get the money, donate to Harris

[–] NavySqueal@lemmy.world 41 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Highly doubt Musk will pay, also hilarious that the reason is "to protect constitutional rights" when the person who he is endorsing has 0 integrity for that asides for freedom of his own speech...

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 13 points 19 hours ago

And only the speech where he lies, or is racist, or sexist.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The term you're looking for is bribery.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 32 points 19 hours ago

The term is actually "electioneering." And, he's getting close to the illegal kind.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't know but I think that any minimally civilized country would be a crime... just saying

PS: I forgot that the US isn't a civilized country and they live under a plutocracy of Capital

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

This shit, 1000%, should be illegal

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 10 points 14 hours ago

When he wore a black MAGA hat, he was "dark MAGA". Is this... cheese MAGA?

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Buying votes straight up. The only way this could get any worse is if it was funded by Trump or if Trump did it himself.

It would be hilarious if Trump asked Musk for $100 for voting Trump though

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Turnip does not pay any bills. He's just a grifter.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 41 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Jesus fucking Christ literally billionaires buying elections... Will they riot? Of course not because they win with this. If Mark Cuban offered the same thing for Harris there would be blood in the streets and Fox news would be calling for his head after Trumps coronation...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

The real question is... why aren't we rioting about it?

[–] Mearuu@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think this can be used as “evidence” that more people voted for trump than Harris.

For example, elon says that he paid 1000 people for this in a certain district but the vote tallies show that only 500 votes for trump in that area. It would add to the magats incorrect belief that they were cheated. Then the magats would want to start a civil war over it.

I hope I’m wrong.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 16 hours ago

As I said before. I imagine my friends would be real helpful in signing up.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Amateur hour shit. Ask the other billionaires the correct way of buying elections if any of them still want to hang out with you at Epstein's

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

when the numbers start getting this close, buying electoral college electors to convince them to be faithless starts to be possible. Its probably not even very expensive, compared to what you can grift off a presidency.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yo go get the money but then still vote Harris. What's he gonna do lol?

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 11 points 19 hours ago

$100 LOL i'm not looking into this, but is it actually $100, or some bullshittery like a free year of blue checkmark on twitter

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