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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 108 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This infuriates me.

I would actually love to do more to REDUCE my carbon footprint, but it's prohibitively expensive to.

But billionaires (and millionaires) can literally greenify every aspect of their lives, even be carbon-neutral or carbon negative! But they choose not to.

I think taxing the rich just isn't enough. We need to CAP the rich. There should be no billionaires.

[–] godlessworm@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

yeah we do need to bust a cap in the rich, i agree

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They can spend millions trying to reduce everyone’s carbon footprints. Like literally they can lobby for trains and shit. But no they won’t.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 13 hours ago

Stephen King

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Its designed to infuriate you. This is not personal emissions of billionaires, its including their businesses.

[–] godlessworm@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

brother, that doesn't make it any better. these pieces of shit can do more pollution in 90 minutes than any of us will in a life time since it's for their business? the one which is such a massive operation of exploitation and extraction that it earns them billions of illbegotten dollars, which is why they're being talked about to begin with?

"this infuriating shit was designed to infuriate you, don't be infuriated, just accept it instead!"

this is the same stupid shit argument as "um bezos can't pay more taxes bc he doesn't actually have all the money his networth implies, that's not how networth works" as if people mad at jeff bezos or any of these other worthless rich parasites don't know that, as if we need someone like you to explain some stupid shit to us

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

This is not personal emissions of billionaires, its including their businesses.

The Oxfam report says that private planes and "superyachts" are contributing factors, as well as investments in polluting industries like oil and mining.

Nowhere does it mention that their businesses are what's contributing to their carbon footprint. They are explicitly talking about their lifestyle choices.

So, I'm not sure where you got that info from, but if they are including businesses that these billionaires run, I'd be interested in seeing that data.

Mind you, the majority of these billionaires are in software... a business that's very easy to convert over to a carbon-neutral model, especially with their resources.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A billionaire is a business themselves. One person can't even passively possess a billion dollars without tons of support staff

If you separate the direct actions of the person from the actions of the staff required to maintain and grow their wealth, you're missing most of the reason why billionaires are so harmful to society

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Either we need the figures to represent a billionaires emissions when dealing only with their personal benefit, or we offset the current figures with the benefit to society for their ventures.

Im sure their personal emissions are bad enough. We dont need to make shit up. If willful ignornace had a physical form, it would be Lemmy's mascot. Truth is the only thing that matters.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Carefully Autopsy their Person?
Sounds good.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Cap them in their knees.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Please don’t use this as an excuse for. “It doesn’t matter how much I emit then”.

Use this as motivation for grassroots and political action aiming to stop the concept of billionaire from existing.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think I just found out I can reverse my entire life's footprint if I can manage to blow smoke in one billionaire's face.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Probably two lives, given their security will likely shoot you in the face.

ACAB.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (6 children)

... billionaires' security are not cops

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

True, there's no masking in private security.

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[–] Zoop@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago

Fuck yeah! You get it.

I'm glad you addressed this. As soon as I read the title of the post, I knew there would be people who use it as an excuse not to try to do what they can to reduce their negative affects. Which is so incredibly frustrating. Every! Little! Bit! Counts!

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Also I doubt anyone in this comment section is average.

The average sits somewhere between us and the all the people in third world country who emit practically no carbon pollution

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[–] xorollo@leminal.space 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So stop eating cows and eat the rich instead?

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Whether or not you eat the rich, please consider not eating the cows.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

Damn, thank god we killed plastic straws for people with sensitive mouth problems. Thank god Musk can ride his jet 24/7.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 18 points 4 days ago (14 children)

There is no such thing as an innocent billionaire.

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

But I'm the asshole for not using the public transportation my city doesn't have. Anyway, I need to get to the grocery store I should start walking now so I can be there before it closes in 2 hours.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For perspective, that's over 400,000x as much. As in 40,000,000%.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

When no one was looking, Lex Luthor polluted forty million percent more than an average person. He polluted 40,000,000% more. That's as many as four tens (times a million)%. And that's terrible.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

wow they must be breathing really hard then

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Of course... Work hard, breath hard... A million times harder than you or me, based on income.. /s

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

It's the farts actually, they're really stinky.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At some point, things are gonna get bad enough that the masses will turn on them. That’s why they’re all buying islands and building bunkers. We should do it now, while it can make a difference.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Allowing to self exile to islands will make it easier to trap them. Simply destroy their means of leaving.

Bunkers are even easier, burying them in trash.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 days ago

Don't worry, I got this. I went to the shop by foot today instead of driving.

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