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[–] ech@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meme? That's literally just an ad. Am I missing something?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

half or most of GenZ humour is ads disguised as memes

[–] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah. Gen Z is the most propagandised generation. I blame the parents and the ego.

Realising just how pervasive advertising is today really changes how you view the world.

I always use that Sonic movie shit as an example. Everyone was all memeing and joking that sonic was ugly and awful, generating so much buzz that it made global headlines. Then take a step back and consider; 'Would SEGA, who are amazingly protective of their IP and their mascot, really sign off on allowing an ugly model?' No. They wouldn't. Take another step and consider if it's truly possible to replace the digital model, animations, lipsync, VFX and environment in just a few months? No, it's not possible. No one would've bothered with a Sonic movie because it's fucking Sonic, he's a boring, uninteresting character. But now, because of that campaign, they can pump out more movies. 'We did it guys, we saved sonic! We have such power when we're a collective! Let's all watch the movie so we can feel accomplished.'

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That's wild, I hadn't even thought about it like that. Guess I had taken the bait 😞

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, you should always be hesitant about any post on mainstream media. There are so many disguised ads.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I actually believe the same thing about that movie. It was all way too clean and quick. Most people give me weird looks when I mention it, though, hah.

[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First time I saw a meat content warning I thought it had to be making fun. But no, Grad be like:

"cw:meat

(also you should murder your landlord and their family painfully)."

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Tankie guerrillas running low on supplies. One makes a mad dash to fetch some tofu, trips immediately, breaks 17 different bones and calls for mum

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

how are these people going to revolt and overthrow the system when a fucking burger is triggering? lmao

i just can't take them seriously

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tankie crowd control method: showing them pictures of burgers

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Alright I chuckled at the video (and man, that meat warning is something else), but to be fair, quite a lot of people just can't handle noise neurologically. It's built into their brain.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I'm aware, I'm one such person. But if you're going to be a revolutionary you gotta suck it up

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space -1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's wild that y'all get triggered by content warnings tbh. Not gonna say anything about the cw posted, but you never know what may be an actual trigger for someone and it doesn't really hurt to post content with one to be considerate. Maybe this poster knows someone who experiences a severe revulsion to images of processed meat products and they take care to be sensitive to that.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

First, it's a burger.

Second, these people are tankies. They regularly celebrate massacres, genocides and terrorism, with many calls to enact more violence. They want to overthrow the system in a violent upheaval and kill everyone who disobeys.

The funny thing is that they need trigger warnings for mundane things like meat. How will they revolt if they are so delicate and soft that meat triggers them?

Do you see the point now?

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get it, but y'all are being weird. Why not focus your criticisms on their primary values instead of valid beliefs/displays of compassion and empathy like this. Your values and communication style is just as tribal and incendiary. Your faux armchair machismo comes off just as pathetically as theirs does.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You do not see the point--alright.

Go and look at some of the top posts this past month or so. We cover plenty of their primary values, such as celebrating massacres and genocides and actively calling for the death of innocents en masse. Nor are they empathic, no one who celebrates murder has empathy. This 'compassion' is purely virtue signalling and a sign of how pampered and high-class they are.

Why aren't you commenting about any of the above? It's rather odd.

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh idk, Maybe it's because the post is just making fun of content warnings and I'm someone that appreciates and uses them.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

It's not making fun of content warnings. It's making fun that these extremists need to use them. I even explained this in the first comment.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ok but like its a fucking burger. You wouldn't put a warning on a picture of lentils

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Brussels sprouts, sure, but not lentils.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Definitely for spinach. Seeing spinach brings back unpleasant memories.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Spinach is inherently associated with Popeye, an old cartoon depicting toxic masculinity and abuse against women.

/s

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space -2 points 2 days ago

we may have to with people that get so upset over silly stuff like this lmao, do y'all actually see yourselves?

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The OP should have included a content warning about content warnings!

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space 0 points 2 days ago

honestly that may have to be the solution lol

[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The vegans in their community asked for this CW. It makes sense to me, I get repulsed by seeing meat knowing what was done to the animals to get the meat. It's like seeing a gory image, especially if you've seen what happens in a vegan documentary or something before. The people in this thread are being very weird, if I had to guess they lean conservative.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This community is very diverse with its users views. We have some conservatives, some communists, liberals, anarchists, etc.

Regardless, the point is going over your head. The people who regularly call for violence, post violent imagery, and celebrate violent people need content warnings.

Do you not see the joke in that?

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah a lot of bad faith arguing against me. They think it is okay to bash on reasonable beliefs/actions as long as they are committed by someone who has other, more extreme, beliefs. But it's not okay, attack the bad views, not the good ones. This lemmy instance is definitely filled with a lot of these weird types.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

A lot of bad-faith arguing? Only I'm arguing with you. How am I arguing in bad faith while explaining what this post means while also asking for your opinions?