Absolute masterclass from Max. Was just leagues above everyone else.
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Reminded me a bit of Miami last year where Perez thought he could fight for the championship and then Verstappen just KO'd Perez and left him limping the rest of the season.
Yeah flawless - well deserved
Also greatly helped by the free pitstop.
There was a bit of luck involved but given the pace he had, he probably would have won anyway.
He also had to remain accident free while overtaking quite a few cars, in a race where there were crashes left right and centre. Sure he got lucky but he also made his own luck by driving an incident free race.
Say what you want about the guy, his attitude, or on track antics oft times, you cannot take today’s drive away from him. I’m not a fan of any of the former, but I concede, begrudgingly, today’s drive proved him to be one of the greats. The belligerent fastest laps at the end of it all were such a statement too. I can’t; I just can’t 😅
True, but he made the most of the opportunity...
Just mighty.
I don't get the Safety Car for "teams are on the wrong tires". Some had already switched to full wets. Surely this should be up to the teams to screw up instead of relying on the organizers to save them staying out on inters.
Even if everyone was on full wets, they bring it out for visibility and hydroplaning. I think that's part of the reason no one switched to full wets. They knew if conditions got bad enough to need them, the SC would come out and there might be a red flag too.
From memory, Tsunoda, Lawson, Hulk, Perez, Zhou, and I think there was 1 more. Their strategy was paying off with lap times 3s faster and that was just getting started. Sad to seen a great strategic choice like this turn to shit because teams know the race director will be overly cautious and protect teams from having to make risky strategy calls.
At least four cars had switched to full wets at the time.
How do you even fix that? At this point driving on the wrong tyre is an optimal strategy. Either:
- Driver stays on inters and calls for red flag cause it's undrivable
- Driver on inters crashes because they should be on wets, causing a red flag
- someone (like RB today) pits for wets and gets punished because someone else crashed out and caused a red flag
Also I'm not fooled by drivers moaning about how wets suck and have no grip; as long as inters are even 0.1 a lap faster than wets, everyone will want to run inters. I don't think there's place for two wet weather compounds since everyone will pick the 'faster' one regardles of weather.
Still cannot figure out why Stroll thought it was a good idea to drive through the gravel getting beached after he crashed, he could have made a 180 and stay on the tarmac.
Mate it's lance stroll
F1 cars have reverse, which would've gotten him on safe ground. I think he tried a 180 but there wasn't enough tarmac to work with with the barriers being so close, so he beaches himself.
Lando bitching about his luck so much when he had half the race to make progress. Instead he just went backwards.
He lost the lead again and went off a few times and the team topped it off with bad strategy calls (+Lando wanted to come in even earlier) has nothing to do with luck i think.
+Lando wanted to come in even earlier
Exactly. He was asking to be pit even before the VSC and is now bitching that the team pit him
I don't get how you interpret the interview as him bitching about the team call? In the interview, he did acknowledge that he made a few mistakes, but aside from that he thought they did the best they could, and the red flag was the bad luck.
I enjoyed this race but once again we have bizarre race direction and stewarding.
Interlagos is love. Interlagos is life
So what is going to happen about the mass start infringement¿?
Everyone gets disqualified, except for Sainz as he was still in the pits.
If this happens I will be fucking laughing
Reprimand + €5000 fine for Russell and Norris
It's difficult to root for Norris to catch up to Verstappen when he's clearly not up to the task in all conditions.
conspiracy hat on: Red Bull is surely right that other teams are cheating with water in the tires. Look what happens when it's wet so they have no use for it.
... just kidding. Maybe.
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
Oscar is so mature. Admitted that he messed up with Lawson and did not blame luck or anything. He will be a future champion if he keeps improving
If heaven exists, senna must be smiling - he saw one of the GOATs drive his car in tribute and then saw his spiritual successor drive the race of his lifetime at his hometown track
Just we expected of the powerhouse....checks notes....Alpine with the double podium finish. Yes....lol
Max got his pit stop in under a red flag, and that made all the difference.
17 fastest laps and finishing 19 seconds ahead of Ocon begs to differ. Max would've won even if he had pitted under the safety car and he would've beaten Norris even without a safety car. Nobody had the pace Max had. The red flag made his race easier but it didn't "make all the difference".
You can't ignore that Max was given a free pitstop. Would Max have won even if he hadn't? Maybe. But after he was given the free pitstop, it was a sure thing that he was going to be in the top 3 ahead of George and Lando.
I agree that the red flag made it easy for him to win, but not because of the free pitstop, it's because Merc and McLaren made the wrong strategy call.
Everybody knows that if the race conditions require wets there's a high chance the race is called off. Both Merc and McLaren pitted before the worst rain which means they weren't waiting to see if the race is called off. Had the race been called off I don't think people would be looking at Max. I think people would be questioning why Merc and McLaren decided to pit early. The red flag was beneficial to Max because Merc and McLaren made the wrong call by pitting early.
While I'm a Verstappen fan I really want this to stop. It's not exciting and as an additional thing it might lead teamsvto leave their drivers out in dangerous conditions hoping to gain track position in case of a red flag.
It just worked out for him. Something like this usually happens during monsoon races. If it makes you feel better, he was able to stay out on ragged tires due to excellent car control. Of course, so did Ocon.
What a race !!
Go to Brasil and Brasil things happened.
Nice to see Verstappen and Red Bull actually celebrating again instead of it just being a rote victory
VERSTAPPEN'S 2024 CHAMPIONSHIP
If he finishes ahead of Norris in Las Vegas, he will win the championship
Norris needs to outscore Verstappen by 3 points to avoid it.
So, another consequtive four time championship winner.
What a race!