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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 167 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

Of you ask me, this man is the reason for all of this. Bernie would have won reelection yesterday. Nearly anyone would have.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 143 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It wasn't just this man, it was the entire Democratic Party. Remember well that in the four years leaning up to the election, while the Republican party was playing 6-D chess trying to figure out every possible avenue they could use to sieze power, the Dems decided their best chance at defeating Trump was running Sleepy Joe Biden.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 94 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

They did Bernie fucking dirty in 2016.

Then Biden knew he could run on name recognition alone and trounce Bernie in 2020. He knew people were pining for the Obama days and played off that nostalgia.

Fuck Hillary Clinton, fuck Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Kamala Harris is okay, fuck Joe Biden, and fuck the DNC. There's no reason they shouldn't run a progressive candidate, but it's clear they're allergic to winning elections.

Also, did anyone seem to notice that "weird" dropped out of campaign messaging in the last couple months following the nom? Can't help but think the DNC was behind that. Calling them weird was their kryptonite, even if Kamala Harris essentially said, "I'd do nothing different from Joe."

Joe Biden was a perfectly okay president. He was pretty invisible for the most part. He was a boring president. But he didn't bring the FIRE Bernie had in 2016 and 2020. He ran at a time when he KNEW he would win because Bernie was too far to the left for the DNC to be comfortable, and for that, I consider him a coward.

We didn't deserve a President Sanders, but holy shit did we ever NEED him. And yes, I am coping pretty hard right now.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone says they did Bernie dirty in 2016, but no one ever brings up how in 2020, the establishment dems all dropped out of the race in exchange for cabinet positions to rally around the elder statesman Biden—when Bernie was winning the primaries.

That, in my opinion, is far dirtier and a much bigger “fuck you” to leftists/progressives/humanists than 2016.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I brought that up, literally minutes ago. 100%

Biden was getting trounced. The party was embarrassed, so they made a bunch of backroom deals and sharpened their knives. Then Liz Warren stuck her blade in Sanders' back on live TV.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

The liberal elite would rather see a fascist dictatorship, than a progressive leftist democracy, as one of those endangers their wealth and power.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

people gonna start switching sides permanently if DNC can't fix themselves

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As if that hasn't been happening already. Dems need to get their shit together.

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Just imagine if he had stuck to his promise of being a one term president and didn't try to run for reelection.

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[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, ideally Bernie would have won reelection in 2020 so he wouldn't have been able to run this time.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The results are disgusting.
But this is pretty funny, thank you for the needed laugh

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 42 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

He was doing worse, wasn't he?

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think we woulda had our cheeks clapped either way.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only way to win was going full throttle progressive and saying fuck you to Israel. Such an anti establishment display would have rivalled people's (idiotic) perception of Trump. But instead she spent the last 3 months courting Republicans. Losing strat from the get-go.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Looking at exit polls, people were far more concerned with the economy than anything else. I don't think Israel mattered much to average people. Biden/Harris got fucked with pandemic inflation and people are too dumb to realize it had nothing to do with them. And that will be further reinforced because inflation is under control now so Trump will look great having done nothing whatsoever.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This was totally the fault of Democrats. They are the reason they lost. Blaming anyone else or acting like it was just a coincidence is nothing more than denying reality. Israel and the Cheney parade definitely played a role. The negative ads targeting progressives like Jill Stein played a role. Kamala hiding from progressive networks that would ask real questions played a role. The Democratic party has become nothing more than a dysfunctional corporate bureaucracy that thinks they can convince everyone that shit is gold.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

All that sounds like your subjective view not based on data. Not saying the DNC is perfect by any means, but it's clear the economy was by far the #1 issue in this election. I mentioned exit polls earlier, and also Trump was way up compared to 2020 even in extremely rural counties. Israel, Cheney, Stein, etc have nothing to do with that.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sure seems like it

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

exactly. I think whoever ended up as the D candidate was going to take the blame for the massive pandemic inflation. They were destined for failure from the beginning.

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I meant it more as neither Joe nor Kamala had it in em to rally a win because they kept pushing the wrong issues and disenfranchising voters.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Bruh if you're still giving a shit about what any pre-election polls were saying after they've repeatedly failed to predict so many elections I don't know what to tell you.

I said it before he stepped down- America is too misogynist and racist to vote in Harris. Even the economic left. Would Biden have done better? I can't say. But I do think it's pretty damning that Harris didn't even win the popular vote like Biden and Hillary did.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Biden couldn't even speak a coherent paragraph this time.

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[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump got same amount of votes as last time, but Harris got 14m less. So congrats, Democrats have fucked themselves over, yet again! Or you hate women or you hate PoC.

Sad truth. But numbers don't lie.

On one hand, I feel sorry for you Americans, but majority of you have chose this... What a joke.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They shoulda run Walz for prez

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

apparently lots of people didn't even realize biden dropped out until they saw the ballot. what the us needs is basic and free education.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, seriously? The amount of political ads we were bombarded with for 6 months leading up to November, and people didn't realize Biden wasn't running?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was at a coffee place drive-through a couple of months ago and they always leave the window open there, so I heard them chatting inside and one of them was not even aware Biden was president. She literally said, "I thought Trump was the president."

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there's a certain kind of privilege in that. like, life must be so good for people to not even bother knowing who's president.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And yet despite all the warning signs his hubris disrupted the democratic process and progressives were once again told to fall in line and back a candidate who campaigned on appealing to the center-right.

The Dems have let down the American people, again.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not really interested in making excuses for the 70+ million Americans that voted for a racist, sexist, felon fraud and rapist.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You can certainly harbor contempt for the American people who choose such a morally bankrupt coalition while also recognizing that the oppositional movement has repetitively failed to inspire its own voter base to turn out.

The fact remains that the Dems have thrice now run on a platform of unity and forsaken the will of the Left in an attempt to appeal to those who would happily annihilate the Left in pursuit of its own goals.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 31 points 2 weeks ago

Joe Biden has an opportunity to do something very very funny with a shotgun called Official Acts.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

https://democrats.org/contact-us/

Their system is so bad they accepted "gofuckyourself@fuckyou.com" as my email so have fun.

I told them all to resign.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yes grandpa, let's get you home.

[–] Balrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

A nice kek at the end of the tunnel.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

US had to leave this half way. There was still one senile old geezer left.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, hilarious

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