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Summary

President Joe Biden’s economic achievements—lowering inflation, reducing gas prices, creating jobs, and boosting manufacturing—are largely unrecognized by the public, despite his successes.

His tenure saw landmark legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS Act, and major infrastructure investments.

However, Biden's approval ratings remain low, attributed to inflation backlash, weak communication, and a media landscape prone to misinformation.

Democrats face a “propaganda problem” rather than a policy failure, with many voters likely to credit incoming President Trump for Biden’s accomplishments due to partisan messaging and social media dynamics.

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[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Opinion: trying to teach tens of millions of people enough basic statistics and economics so that they understand that Joe Biden wasn’t actually as bad as they think is not actually a serious strategy for defeating conservative populism in elections

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[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Am I out of touch? No, it's the voters who are wrong"

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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is not a messaging problem it's a measurement problem. The metrics we use to gauge economic progress and/or health are not effective indicators of anyone's experience but the wealthy. When Dems tell me wages have gone up so income inequality is getting better what they mean is that new jobs are on average offering slightly higher pay to new hires.

They don't say that slightly higher pay is 5 cents an hour which is practically useless. They don't acknowledge that this tiny wage increase is dwarfed by the impacts of inflation over the last 4 years. Worst of all, they don't say that because this wage increase only applies to new hires, anyone working the same job for more than a couple of years hasn't seen a wage increase at all, but that price gouging has definitely impacted them. That last one is important because it applies to a huge chunk of people.

This is just the way it works out with wages but basically everything these pundits are saying is great under Biden could be described the same way. They're talking about averages which when applied to 330 million people produce numbers that sound significant, but when you look at almost any individual it doesn't make a practical difference in their lives. Sure, you may have slowed the rate at which things are getting worse, but are you honestly surprised at this reaction? You're telling people you solved their problems and they're responding "no, you absolutely did not and fuck you for saying that"

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah this shit is insane. We fixed inflation! Great, that's great, but where are our, meaning the working class, 25% raises to offset the inflation that already happened? I'll be up for my second raise in three years in 6 months. It's already promised to be 7% which will beat inflation (and I plan to fight for more), but I would need 25% to get my pay to be worth the same as it was three years ago before my first raise.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

biden getting flak over inflation is fucking hilarious.

The fed is literally irrelevant to the president, the president does not control inflation. Sure maybe his spending increased inflation. But the entire global economy was at a practical stand still. If you think getting a seized ICE working again is hard, try it with a global economy.

You can bitch all you want about inflation, but at the end of the day, nobody really knows what the right solution here was. We could've gone through another great depression event if not for global stimulus. And a few years of bad inflation and high costs will beat literally starving.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not a surprise. The majority of Americans are dumber than a bag of rocks. Zero ability to do proper research. Believe superstition over science. Oblivious to other cultures and languages. The list goes on.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And this has all been done on purpose. American children can’t get a proper meal at school. Low paid teachers buying their own school supplies. Kids bombarded with reactionary media trash, tracking, and behaviour manipulation from their phones. College students saddled with debt and not being able to afford homes. Homelessness criminalized. Prisoners turned into slave labor.

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

No, voters punished Biden for his inability to effectively communicate what he’s done to help them. This has been a consistent problem with the democrats, and with corporate media. Democrats need better spokespeople and better messaging.

They also need to stop catering to the ultra rich and moderate republicans because that shit turns off the base faster than crap messaging. There is no “liz cheney, nikki hayley” constituency as we saw last Tuesday.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

You’re right that Dems need better messaging and to stop catering to the ultra rich. At the same time, we can’t discount the propaganda messaging that the article mentions. Not being in their echo chambers means not being exposed to the bulk of it, and that is great. At the same time, it means being disconnected from what a lot of people are basing their opinions on.

For a few years, up until the start of this year, I had a job that required interacting with families in people’s homes. If I had a choice, I would’ve preferred to avoid the right-wingers… but gotta do what you gotta do.

Some households were pure poison: hate-driven parents who constantly belched up Fox news topics. These parents normally communicated with their kids through complaining and screaming. But if a kid made some quip about “Biden sucks,” they got a brief moment where their parents would actually laugh. The reinforcing power of that toxic dynamic cannot be understated.

It’s no wonder that a lot of kids in those circumstances end up eager to repeat the same crap their parents say. In the time that I worked that job, a lot of the commentary was Biden-centric, making him a convenient punching bag that even the smallest fists could reach (even if they had no idea what they were doing/saying.)

Dems have a lot of improvements to make, but it would take a lot more than “improved messaging” to overcome the sheer power of this propaganda culture.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The right has unlimited money and resources when it comes to corporate media messaging. The media will not save us. The revolution will not be televised; it's not in the papers, it's on the walls.

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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why "no"? You're basically saying the same as the summary.

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Opinion: Authors that proclaim voters "need to be more educated" should maybe be forced to buy a book on how politics work... have always worked, since the beginning of time.

Then: as they quite clearly don't know how to use a book properly they should shove that book as far up their asses as it can go.

The only way forward for the people of America is to leave both corrupted corporate parties behind.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Marginally addressed. Like I get it. He's better than Trump, but so is 50% of the average person I see outside. There is no effectively addressed, when we know the tested, studied, and actually implemented solutions.

For example: The ACA. Yes an improvement from what came before but a quarter baked bandaid on the bullet wound of a health care system. We know universal health care system is the answer. It's a fact. The Democratic party never once made that a core part of their platform. Even if you know you won't get everything when working in a democracy you still have to argue from a far left position so when you compromise it's a stronger shift. The middle ground between universal health care coverage and 100% free market is the public option. Where Americans can decide between government coverage or private. But the ACA essentially forced everyone above the poverty line into private insurance held up by government subsidies.

Another example: instead of being 100% anti genicide the Democrat leadership landed on reducing the sizes of bombs given to Isreal?! What's the middle ground between the 100% pro genicide party and the 75% genicide party? Ya ones better but if we land on a compromise of 87% genicide, did we really achieve anything?

Income inequality: Republicans 100% pro oligarchy Democratic party leadership is 75% pro oligarchy. The party of facts and science knows our economy with collapse every 20 to 30 years to keep the jinga Tower from crumbling to the foundation so what do they do? Bail out the companies that destroyed the economy in the first place and reset the lopsided tower. If we bail out a company why shouldn't it also be nationalized?!

I can keep going on. Every issue the Democratic party's solutions are little more than the queen saying, "let them eat cake."

I live in a solid blue state and surround myself with far left people because we've realized, expecting the federal government to improve your life is a fools errand. We're building our own bubble of compassion, science, and facts. Yes we vote blue but know the only change we can truly make starts by getting involved in our community and surrounding ourselves with those that will fight from a strong position and not a already right leaning position. If we're going to die it'll be with a Molotov cocktails in one hand and surround by those that actually care about each other. Opposed to at the feet of the oligarchy begging for crumbs.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's funny you mention the ACA, since what we have now came from Republicans absolutely gutting the original ACA proposal which should surprise absolutely no one since the GOP is bought and paid for by insurance companies.

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (55 children)

Remember when he first got elected and people blamed covid on him as a joke (it happened before he was in office)
...then now people actually believe it

Edit: point proven.

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[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

His adminstration may have not created them. But the neoliberal Democrats that he represents did going all the way back to Clinton.

He also only deployed half measures or dragged his feet all the way until the last minute.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Biden (and the rest of us) is being punished for the mistake of not making prosecuting trump and overturning his last 4 years the #1 priority.

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