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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

I think I've heard about enough of experts predicting the future lately.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Marcus is right, incremental improvements in AIs like ChatGPT will not lead to AGI and were never on that course to begin with. What LLMs do is fundamentally not "intelligence", they just imitate human response based on existing human-generated content. This can produce usable results, but not because the LLM has any understanding of the question. Since the current AI surge is based almost entirely on LLMs, the delusion that the industry will soon achieve AGI is doomed to fall apart - but not until a lot of smart speculators have gotten in and out and made a pile of money.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

Because nobody could have possibly saw that coming. /s

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

is this where we get to explain again why its not really ai?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Nope, just where you divest your stocks like any other tech run.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

He is writing about LLM mainly, and that is absolutely AI, it's just not strong AI or general AI (AGI).
You can't invent your own meaning for existing established terms.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

LLMs are AI in the same way that the lane assist on my car is AI. Tech companies, however, very carefully and deliberately play up LLMs as being AGI or close to it. See for example toe convenient fear-mongering over the "risks" of AI, as though ChatGPT will become Skynet.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Good. I look forward to all these idiots finally accepting that they drastically misunderstood what LLMs actually are and are not. I know their idiotic brains are only able to understand simple concepts like "line must go up" and follow them like religious tenants though so I'm sure they'll waste everyone's time and increase enshitification with some other new bullshit once they quietly remove their broken (and unprofitable) AI from stuff.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I am so tired of the ai hype and hate. Please give me my gen art interest back please just make it obscure again to program art I beg of you

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[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

This is why you're seeing news articles from Sam Altman saying that AGI will blow past us without any societal impact. He's trying to lessen the blow of the bubble bursting for AI/ML.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Welcome to the top of the sigmoid curve.

If you were wondering what 1999 felt like WRT to the internet, well, here we are. The Matrix was still fresh in everyone's mind and a lot of online tech innovation kinda plateaued, followed by some "market adjustments."

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[–] Mushroomm@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

It's been 5 minutes since the new thing did a new thing. Is it the end?

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (13 children)

As I use copilot to write software, I have a hard time seeing how it'll get better than it already is. The fundamental problem of all machine learning is that the training data has to be good enough to solve the problem. So the problems I run into make sense, like:

  1. Copilot can't read my mind and figure out what I'm trying to do.
  2. I'm working on an uncommon problem where the typical solutions don't work
  3. Copilot is unable to tell when it doesn't "know" the answer, because of course it's just simulating communication and doesn't really know anything.

2 and 3 could be alleviated, but probably not solved completely with more and better data or engineering changes - but obviously AI developers started by training the models on the most useful data and strategies that they think work best. 1 seems fundamentally unsolvable.

I think there could be some more advances in finding more and better use cases, but I'm a pessimist when it comes to any serious advances in the underlying technology.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Not copilot, but I run into a fourth problem:
4. The LLM gets hung up on insisting that a newer feature of the language I'm using is wrong and keeps focusing on "fixing" it, even though it has access to the newest correct specifications where the feature is explicitly defined and explained.

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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Of course it'll crash. Saying it's imminent though suggests someone needs to exercise their shorts.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Apparently, there was only so much IP to steal

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Short on the AI stocks before it crash!

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[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Fingers crossed.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

so long, see you all in the next hype. Any guesses?

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[–] Decker108@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Nice, looking forward to it! So much money and time wasted on pipe dreams and hype. We need to get back to some actually useful innovation.

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