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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 112 points 1 week ago (32 children)

All the people who were screeching to abandon Harris because of Gaza seem awfully quiet now

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anticolonialist turned into a puff of smoke immediately after the election.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they were just banned. This place has become somewhat of a lib echo chamber.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Or they were a Russian bot.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gosh but I heard that all genocide is equal and Biden is literally the devil. Do you mean that having a meaningful impact on whether Palestinians live or die was worth swallowing my pride and voting for Harris? But isn't my ideal that no Palestinian should die more important than actually saving the lives of Palestinians?

/s I absolutely can't fucking stand people who were unable to realize that less harm would, in fact, be less harmful.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You say "unable to realize", I say "intentionally pushed a false narrative to increase voter apathy".

Especially since many of them refused to engage any discussion on how much worse Trump would be.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago

It's a combination of both. Lots of useful idiots. Just see that thing AOC did to find out why people would split the vote with her and Trump.

People in this country are straight up dangerously stupid.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 32 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I have a feeling a lot of them were not American. The bot farms are quiet now because they got what they wanted.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Too bad the actual fascist Americans who elected Trump are still with you. It's always someone else's fault not America's.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Well it's not like Biden/Harris actually tried for a ceasefire. There's really not much change other than the quiet part being said out loud.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah that cease fire Biden negotiated was way better!

Oh, wait.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Are they? I see the comments still full of them.

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

All the russian trolls? They've moved on. The America job is completed.

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[–] themoken@startrek.website 25 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Everyone pointing at people that didn't vote for Harris over Gaza like this is some gotcha moment are totally missing the point. If Gaza was your primary concern (like if you and your family are Palestinian perhaps) neither candidate was going to do anything for you at all. Harris paid a tiny bit of lip service to Gaza two days before the election after months of shutting down and ignoring everyone demanding ceasefire.

I voted Harris purely out of harm reduction, but she offered nothing to anyone on the left. The DNC assumes everyone that is queer or bipoc or a woman owes them their vote and then used the platform to court non-existent center right voters.

But nah, let's pretend that Harris, who took Biden's positions wholesale, would have done something different as if they weren't currently in power. Let's pretend they would have done something to restore abortion rights too, or tackle climate change or raise the minimum wage when they're so busy trying to get fascist votes and not piss off the coporate donor class.

The Democratic party needs to be rebuilt from scratch or not rebuilt at all.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You know, you should have read this before you claim Harris offered nothing to anyone on the left: https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/sep/30/kamala-harris-2024-campaign-promises-here-are-her/

[–] themoken@startrek.website 3 points 6 days ago

Everything on that list is typical neoliberal Democrat tinkering around the edges while the world burns.

It's not that the individual ideas are bad, it's that they have no vision of a better future for most people. Where is Medicare For All? Where is tuition free college? Where is anything that isn't just a bandaid for a specific paper cut when the whole goddam country is being devoured by fascists and corporations?

That's the meat I'm talking about - something that millions of people on the left could vote for in self interest. What we got was meat for checks notes non-Medicare diabetics.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Something, something Republicans are peacemakers.

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