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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The anti-war movement in this country has been decimated, but the majority of people in this country do not want war. The national electorate has consistently voted for who they believe to be the least hawkish candidate.

They will be the establishment no matter what they do lmfao. Can't claim to not be unless they choose to go the Republican route of lying their asses off

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Bit late init

[–] Juice@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

"These bonobo monkeys must become Rhodes scholars" is a more believable headline

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: anybody not cheering for Fox News' talking points sufficiently enthusiastically is declared "socialist" and all but suggested as target for public lynching (or in some cases actually the target of a lynch mob storming the capitol) and the masses have been drilled into going berserk at hearing the right keywords, regardless of what happens in reality.

Calling an attempt to break this information monopoly over half the nation an uphill battle is the epitome of understatement.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly, Fox News is going to call anyone against them a socialist. That's just what they're going to do. There are even some Republican policies which can be construed as socialist, such as public spending on schools, even private schools.

The average voter really doesn't care about if something is socialist or not. They clearly don't care if something is fascist. They only care about the perception of how it will affect their life.

If you tell people they're not going to have to pay for healthcare ever again, or that cannabis will be legal, or that you will fix the massive wealth gap, they will vote for you. Nominal Republicans would even vote for you. The downside of using the word socialism like that, is that Fox News that has removed the meaning of socialism from their base, meaning that actual socialism will not seem like such a big deal.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wasn't there a recent conspiracy theory that the establishment doesn't want Trump (hence the assassination attempts) because he's an easily manipulated loose canon who doesn't follow orders like a good shill should lol?

Point being that dems lost this election because they are inherently more pro establishment and have been for a while.

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