To be fair we were lied to growing up. Be nice to others and santa.
this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2024
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I'd believe it when I see it
Checks and balances wasn't about avoiding fascism.
It was to make sure all three branches of governments stayed in power over the body politic.
And they still are in power.
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Chink in that armor was allow people without education, attention, and just plain common sense to vote
Kinda why the Electoral College exists.
But it was too cool to hate on it.
Because the people running the game know without it the game becomes who has the best propaganda.
Well, as you have seen, the game of propaganda was won by the ignorant, dark visioned, loudmouthed clowns
Considering the power dynamic, is calling them the ignorant ones correct?
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Nah, there's an easier and less fascistic solution than taking away voting rights: don't let felons run for office.
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America was built on the ideas of freedom and equality by slave owners who didn't think women should be allowed to vote.
But they got it started and we changed some things. We just didn't change enough, or perhaps changed the wrong things.
I mean, they did give an earnest try at preventing a king from happening, and it did work for a couple hundred years.
Don’t forget they were also terrified of democracy. The Senate is one of the most comically anti-democratic institutions ever concocted. Wyoming has as much power as California. I mean it beggars belief that anyone but a complete imbecile could agree to something like that.
For an united states sort of setup having one level of government representing the states particularly makes sense to me. EU has a similar setup (but much more complicated) and a suggestion that it'd just be based on popular vote would cause a civil war.
The EU has a representative setup, which is democratic. Nothing like the US Senate, which is designed to rob people of representation.
Again, governments justify their existence by serving people, full stop, not arbitrary land masses. What’s next, a tertiary chamber of Congress for corporations?
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The founding fathers were correct. A pure democracy is also known as mob rule. Anytime you can get 51% to agree with you, you can do whatever you like.
If 51% vote to take the homes of black people, that's decided and done.
Which is why modern democracies are all some form of representative democracy. Which in theory is supposed to act as a sort of check and balance on the system.
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Maybe it's time you guys rewrote your constitution into something more modern instead of treating the old one as a holy scripture handed down from Olympus.
But I doubt that'll ever happen.
Trump is about to rewrite our Constitution, just not the way it should be written.
If he does, at least it'll show that it can be rewritten.
Like all those amendments did?
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Regulatory capture and citizens united both exist to undo those checks and balances. No system is immune to corruption.
Interestingly the US system was always more vulnerable to corruption, and everyone knew it. Our executive branch is far too powerful. That’s why when the US has engaged in nation building they never install governments like ours. Germany, Japan, Iraq, etc. the pentagon always insists on a parliamentary system, because they’re better in every way (less prone to grid lock, less prone to tyranny of the minority, weaker executive, etc.).
A lot of people are being shown that a lot of stuff that kept their country going was decorum, shame and tradition, not rule of law.
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