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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 115 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Oh lord. This did not need to be a two parter. Man, I miss movies being well contained 90 minute stories.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Just saw part one. As I had suspected, they would’ve been hard pressed to get both acts into one film.

A Broadway show can get away with a lot more compression. There are no establishing shots on a stage. And Wicked, as a musical, moves. The movie didn’t overstay its welcome, it didn’t waste much time. But it still easily filled its runtime.

Making the two acts into two films was a good call. Though I suspect the second film won’t be as good as the first, since I’ve always preferred act 1 of the Broadway show.

It’s really clear to me that the cast and crew weren’t lying when they said they love the musical and wanted to do right by it.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 6 days ago

There are still plenty of those. My word the histrionics from some corners around this film are absurd.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 89 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The whole Broadway show can be done in a 2 hour-ish performance live, there is no justification to stretch this to two movies other than corporate greed milking every IP to the limit

[–] bollybing@lemmynsfw.com 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I don't know, I thought the Broadway show was missing an interspecies love triangle.

And maybe a long scene with barrels.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I want more flying monkeys. I must know their origin!

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Why does it hurt so much?!

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Because it was Reeeeeel!

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From everything I've seen so far about Wicked the movie(s), yes that's exactly what it is.

The show is still touring folks, go see the show if you can

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless its a planned trilogy with 3 strong stories that could semi-standalone (short of context being lost without the other installments) then any movie that needs more than 2 hours should just be a mini series. You wanna tell a 4 hour long story about the Wizard of Oz? Fine, stick it on Netflix and anyone who wants to binge watch it can to make it “feel like a movie” and those who don’t will have 4 - hour long episodes.

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They wouldn't make 4 episodes, they'd make 8 and half of them would be filler episodes.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

I'm starting to suspect that this is why I don't watch as many films as I'd like to. They've all become such a time commitment. Show me what you can do with an hour and a half!

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just you wait...

  • 2024: Wicked (Part 1)
  • 2025: Wicked Part 2 (Part 1)
  • 2026: Wicked Part 2 (Part 2)
[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Someone's been to the Attack on Titan School of Numbering.

Zeno’s triology: Part 1 Part 2 (Part 1) Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 1)) Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 1))) …

As long as you lose less than half the audience in every fraction, you’ve got to make infinite money.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Is Wicked directed by Gabe Newell?

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’m still bitter about Spider-Man. Had no idea it was a part one until it ended. Maybe we just create whole movies with the 2+ hours we are using.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah fuck you reminded me of the ending of Spiderverse. Probably at least 2 years away still...

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t think they were even making part 2 when they ended it that way. Made it so much worse.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

And the fact they said we'd have this to you by EOY. Absolute BS. Still no updated release date.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was so psyched for that movie, but when I found out it was a part one, I lost interest and still haven't seen it

[–] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It completely killed any narrative cohesion or pay-off by just ending. I remember thinking "it's been a really long time... how are they going to wrap this up?"

Turns out the answer is "don't wrap it up". It truly makes me not recommend it - though I had other issues with it aside from just that absurd decision. Rewatch the first again, instead.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which Spiderman was a part 1 of 2?

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The second spider-verse movie, I think. No mention of it being a trilogy but the story clearly ended setting up a third movie.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just make it long with an intermission.

Lots of old musical films did that. Like Oklahoma!, Fiddler on the Roof, and Hello Dolly.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

They don't want to pay for the special effects for the sequel if the first movie bombs

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This did have PART 1 early in reveal but then realized people wouldn't see it so they lied about this being a complete movie. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning did the same thing

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

People aren't going to see a movie that lies about it being a part 1 either, at least not after the first weekend when the word gets out

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I pretty sure it was public knowledge (even talked about in publicity) Dead Reckoning was two parts.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yeah, they scrubbed it from the title once it was on digital/streaming for awhile.

Here’s what AppleTV looks like:

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow I didn't know they cut it in half. After the whole poster thing I wasn't super enthused to see the film, after all I thought the play did amazing job, now I'm even less enthused.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I just saw it. If you liked the Broadway show, definitely see the movie. Wait to see it streaming if you don’t want to see it in theaters, but they definitely did right by the musical, and having seen it I’m glad they made it into two films.

Edit: I’m not sure why recommending it based on having seen it earned a downvote…am I not adding to the conversation?

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 18 points 1 week ago

I have to say it's pretty funny that the article's second half is behind a paywall.

[–] Bonesy91@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Good. Hope this thing flops.

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I saw the trailer yesterday at the theaters. Looks like hot garbage

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

I dunno i went to wicked.com and it looked pretty nice :]

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn, I planned on watching this too. No point now.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just saw it. I recommend you go see it. Especially if you liked the Broadway show. They did a good job, and having seen it I’m glad they’re doing the acts as separate movies, it lets them take time with establishing shots and emotional beats. It’s a good time, saw it with a group and we all loved it.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Never seen the play. Didn't even know it was based on it.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Oh. Then I have no idea if you’d like it. I loved it, but I love the musical. I haven’t yet heard opinions from people who didn’t already know the show.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s annoying when they do it for sure. And personally, I love a long movie. I’d rather watch a three hour epic than two 90 minute movies.

But I don’t have the attention span of a goldfish like many people seem to have these days. So it’s understandable that they feel the need to split, especially if there’s going to be kids watching it.

[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like a good epic as much as the next person, but this is pushing 3 hours itself. Assuming Part 2 is similar, I definitely don't have the attention span to hold me through a 5 1/2 hour, 2-part musical. Yikes.

I'm trying to think of any musical that would be tolerable at 2x the original runtime.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I hadn’t seen the runtime before; you’re right! 161 minutes! That’s definitely three hours with trailers and intermission. Yowza.

It does seem strange to have a part 2 with that much runtime.

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[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was surprised when Dune did it, not sure why they hid it.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Dune I can give a pass to because Frank Herbert originally wrote it as a trilogy and combined it into one book. It has pretty clear chunks breaking it up. They absolutely should have been better about advertising what it was, but it's hard to cover all that content succinctly

Wicked however is based off a 2 hour and 45 minute Broadway show with a 15 minute intermission. There is no good reason that a movie that can have tighter transistons, faster costume changes, and no reused cast should be longer than the Broadway show. Let alone twice as long and spread over multiple films

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