@jon@vivaldi.net I love Safari because it's not chrome & it's got sleek apple design & it means I don't have to use the loathsome firefox
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@jon Firefox on Desktop, Vivaldi on mobile.
Vivaldi is close for me on Mobile because it works really well, but I'm using the Fennec version of Firefox from F-droid currently and it's a favorite, with Vivaldi close behind. Close on mobile because it's the second closest thing for me on privacy goals, and Firefox & forks on Android are a bit buggy.
Firefox (preferably forks) on desktop fully because of the UI being open source, no slight against Vivaldi for that, I fully understand the reasoning for not doing so. I just prefer open source so I bias towards as much as possible of it when not overly difficult to do so.
I do not trust Mozilla, more open source nature of the app allows me to take trust of ownership out of the equation a bit, especially so with forks.
@jon@vivaldi.net It is like fashion. I switch between WebKit and Gecko.
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@Vivaldi@vivaldi.net is my favorite because it gets so much right, right out of the box and is made by good people.
@jon@vivaldi.net I like Firefox as a platform, but don't like it as a browser
Hi @jon@vivaldi.net
As a technology enthusiast, I’d like to share my perspective on this.
Firefox has been my go-to browser for a while, mainly because of:
- Multi-Account Containers: Perfect for managing multiple profiles or accounts seamlessly.
- RAM Efficiency: It’s lightweight and doesn’t hog system resources.
- Privacy Focus: With its 100% open-source nature and stellar reputation as a privacy-first browser, it’s hard to beat.
Vivaldi, on the other hand, has a special place in my heart for its unique and productivity-oriented features:
- Page Tiling: A brilliant tool for working with multiple pages side by side—ideal for multitaskers.
- Plain Text/Markdown Notes: This feature is a gem for academic researchers and avid readers like me, making it easy to jot down notes directly from web pages.
- Web Panels: Super handy for accessing frequently used sites without leaving your main tabs.
- Customizable Dashboard: A lovely productivity hub and a virtual assistant.
A Few Observations
While Vivaldi excels in many areas, there are a couple of things I’d like to highlight:
High RAM Usage: Vivaldi can be quite demanding on memory.
Text-to-Speech Feature: Adding a natural and seamless "Read Aloud" feature would make it even more user-friendly.
Cheers 😊
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi loyal since its early days for its customisability and ear to the user, even though I find its hosting of user accounts quite glitchy.
@jon@vivaldi.net I don't have a favorite browser at the moment. The one I currently use is brave, but there are several things about it that I don't like.
I've yet to find a browser that doesn't break my workflow in a critical way that also isn't brave.
I have several manifest v2 extensions that I'm not going to be giving up.
So until a browser has a tab discard mechanism that can be configured to not auto un-discard a tab on focus, and has a way to force immediate discarding, brave is where I stay.
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#zenbrowser because it's Firefox with left side tabs, better interface and better privacy.
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@jon I'm a Vivaldi supporter since V1. Because of open privacy (MV3) and open finger printing support I use more & more FF and Zen in the last months ... ;-( But I love Vivaldi, great team support and the Vivaldi style
@jon@vivaldi.net Opera from before the switch to chromium remains my favorite to this day, every browser I've used since doesn't feel as feature complete or as fun as Opera did.
@p4@masto.ai , I am very proud of what we built at Opera at that time, but you will find that and more in Vivaldi now.
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For me I use both Vivaldi and firefox.
I like Vivaldi cause its all about customizability and has decent privacy.
I like firefox because it doesn't have to have chromiums bad choices (not including jpegxl, manifest v3, etc). Of the course the defaults aren't the best, but it is also very customizable (even if its harder to customize than Vivaldi).
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I use #Zen because its #Firefox without the drama. Plus workspaces!
@geillescas@techhub.social , I have not tried them, but it looks like they have taken some inspiration from Vivaldi. Even marketing.
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The marketing bit that convinced me was: "you can log in with your existing Firefox Sync account without any hassle"
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox on Android supports extensions, wish Vivaldi did the same!
Has anyone tried floorp? I’ve been using it and it seems good with side tabs. Any others with opinion (good or bad) about it?
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi and Zen browsers. Cuz I like customizability. Zen feels faster though. Vivaldi and Fennec on Android.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox because not chromium based. Vivaldi out of all chromium based
@jon@vivaldi.net Orion! We got a kagi subscription a while back and I enjoyed it so much I decided to try their browser. It blocks youtube ads on all my devices, so it's a keeper
Firefox because only it supports (via an extension) having different sessions in different tabs, so I can log into 3 different accounts at the same website at the same time and use the same browser window for all of them. I need this and won't move to a different browser.
@jon@vivaldi.net ehh probably firefox cus thanks to its existence i have ff forks lol, i use librewolf and now trying out #zenbrowser. zen's pretty damn sweet!
@jon@vivaldi.net It changes from time to time, but I do keep coming back to Firefox. It fits like a glove in Linux, has good dev tools and is configurable enough
@jon I like Firefox and Vivaldi.
FF is totally open source and often renders fonts better than Chromium-based browsers and the PDF reader is more robust. I'm currently working through an online training module and it's the only PDF program that lets me highlight sections of the provided documentation and will remember changes when I save the document.
Vivaldi has a ton of features and is pretty quick and responsive, especially on Android. Still having odd issues with the mail client and I'm really not sure what to make of or do with the new dashboard though.
@jon@vivaldi.net I was a long-time Opera aficionado, only dropped it when they switched to WebKit (and then Blink) and the last Presto-based version became obsolete (TLS-wise, mostly). Switched to Firefox, with which I'll stick as long as it maintains Gecko. Would love to jump to Vivaldi, but we need more independent rendering engines for the health of the web.
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi on android is the only one that does tabs right IMO with the tab bar.
Firefox is nice because it's one of the only ones not using chromium or WebKit and with, finally, vertical tabs I am pretty happy using it on desktop again.
And Vivaldi and Zen Browser because of the amazing split screen feature.
But I prefer Zens sidebar tabs and the fact its also based on Gecko.
So for me it's Zen and Firefox on Desktop and Vivaldi on Android.
Which makes me unable to use sync :/
@jon@vivaldi.net no option for brave ? 🤔 otherwise i prefer firefox.
@jon@vivaldi.net i use the #Firefox clones on desktop and mobile for more #privacy & plugins for #security (see links):
:mastodon: https://chaos.social/@kubikpixel/112494576029392783
:mastodon: https://chaos.social/@kubikpixel/111793141784616361
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