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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago (2 children)

… with the Model Y in particular, not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors, as Tesla warns in the car's manual. It's unclear if the Model Y involved in the crash was equipped with the emergency feature.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 121 points 4 days ago (2 children)

not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors

That sounds... Well, fucking stupid.

[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 48 points 4 days ago

But it saves money - and that's certainly more important for Musk than a well-produced vehicle

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (10 children)

In the 80s we had this little crank. Car didn't need to be on. Crank wasn't electric. Crank was kid-powered. Your dad just yelled at you. "HEY!!!! ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN BACK THERE!!!! YA LITTLE SHIT!!!"

And you knew it was serious, because cars back then didn't have A.C unless you were rich. So it was 90 degrees and the inside of the car was 110. Because YOU said we should put the reflective cover in the winshield, so it wouldn't get so hot in the car, but nooooooooo, dad said you'd only be a minute in the store. Then you come back out 45 minutes later. Which as you know, in kid time is several weeks. So now it's hot in the car. And the seat vynal is burning your legs, because you wore shorts.

And so you ask if you can just open the car doors for a while before you get in, but noooooooo we got places to be.

And so now you're getting yelled at, to crank both windows down because SOMEONE is being an asshole.

But at least you're not burning in a vehicle with no way out!

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I knew there was a Y in there somewhere. Just every way I tried spelling it looked wrong.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

We would also have accepted "polychloroethene"

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[–] Busyvar@jlai.lu 65 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As a European i wonder how lack of mechanical opening could pass safety norms.

[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

there is, it'w just not very obvious apparently. Gotta read the manual to know it.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

https://youtube.com/shorts/ETBQdho90xU

https://youtube.com/shorts/XTfg7VQZ8_4

The last one is: remove the liner in the cargo compartment in the door, pop a flap on the bottom and pull the little tab on the cable that comes out. Even of your know, in a full panic it's going to be hard.

Use the metal part of the seat belt to smash the window is going to be easier in panic mode.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 days ago

That last video is clearly someone at Tesla being maliciously compliant with the safety rules to check off a box and pass inspection. Whoever designed that does not actually care about safety.

The windows are laminated I believe, so they won't shatter. It's unfortunately quite common in many modern vehicles now. It used to be just the front windshield.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (9 children)

in 20 years nobody will be buying a tesla because theyll have killed off their repeat buyers

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When Elon’s DOGE kills the economy, I don’t know who he thinks will be able to buy his shit. Maybe he can sell in Europe.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Nope, here a lot of people are wising up too. And he is constantly fighting with unions. His company will be oblitherated by the Chinese EV companies.

And Cybertrucks won't pass certification here.

[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Too bad the US has actively banned Chinese EVs from being imported to focus or their own behind the times shit models.

I don't actively research EVs yet as I'm not in the market, but that's what I've read whenever I get a little interest in them. I'm not keen on investing until there are more charging places in my area before getting serious on the switch.

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[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's how a "free market" is actually supposed to work.

We DO NOT have a free market, nor do we have the regulations required to keep the economy on a sustainable growth track. Which is why we reliably implode. We took the worst of both economic systems and gave a few oligarchs that control conglomerate corporations free reign to enrich themselves through crisis capitalism.

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[–] whithom@discuss.online 9 points 4 days ago

He won’t care, it’s all a game to him. He has already moved on from Tesla. I’d be surprised if a new model came out at this point.

Perhaps people who truly believe they are in a simulation shouldn’t be allowed to play the game.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I think they will end up just running charging stations eventually and not selling cars

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[–] late_night@sopuli.xyz 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"I'm sorry, Dave. You are not subscribed to Twitter Blue."

[–] asmoranomar@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

"HAL! I need you to understand, Twitter is X now! Please, unlock the damn door!"

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I will never, ever understand how obscenely expensive, poorly made cars sold by a fascist got so damned popular.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Best EV before the fascist made it evident that's what he is. Still best supercharging network available.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have never not been poorly made.

Somewhat tangential fact we should not forget: Musk didn't found Tesla. He bought his way in but acts like he founded it.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They were the only reasonable EV option for several years. They still have the best available charging network if any EV.

I'm not selling a car that is paid off bc the owner of the company stopped hiding that he's obvious trash.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How about because it's safety features lack basic things that can save lives?

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bet if your house slides in the water anyone inside may well die. You gonna move? If not, why? If it's because it doesn't seem probable, then revisit your comment to me. Half of one percent of probability is not "basic things that save lives", that would be seat belts, air bags, windshield wipers, a horn, etc. etc.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You forget about conformity, if something doesn't work how one would expect it to especially in an emergency then it's poorly designed.

If you pull a door handle the expected result is that it releases the door to be opened... If for every door you had to push,pull, lift, turn, check for a secret lever you would think door's are shit...

And that's exactly what's happening here...

It only follows the standard when it's not damaged...

If my house slides into water we got a lot more issues happening and my doors will still work as expected...

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Before someone talks about the windows to justify the electronic door release, cars have had frameless doors for decades at this point, Tesla didn't invent anything, it's possible to have the window go down a bit with a mechanical handle and a switch that gets activated by it.

[–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Or just use a gasket like subaru's did/do. I had frameless doors in ~2000 with no electronics required.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tesla car doors have manual releases in the front doors but not in the rear doors. Or rather, there are manual releases in the rear doors but they are hidden under a hatch under the rubber matting in the door bins so effectively nobody is going to find them in an emergency. So if your car is on fire and you're injured or panicking & you're unaware about the manual release then you're going to die. Now to be fair, the front manual release in the Tesla model 3/Y is fairly discoverable (it's a handle above the electric windows) but it's not so obvious in older models. The Cybertruck has similar manual releases as the 3/Y but with toughened glass I wonder how long before we see someone drown or burn to death and bystanders were unable to rescue them.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Aren't the emergency release in some models behind the speaker grills? And others not present unless you have a higher tier package? (Talking about rear doors)

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So can we officially put Teslas down as worse than the Pinto, cause im pretty sure theyve killed more folks than the Pinto and its magic gas tank.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Mobile dumpsters with a new trash incinerator feature!

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Bzzt wrrt bzrrt LIBERALS DETECTED ENGAGING AUTOLOCK ENGAGING SELF DESTRUCT

Is this how Elon plans to start the culling. 🤔

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm not afraid. In order to be locked in a burning tesla,I'd first have to be inside a tesla.

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Error: Newfear.exe unable to be unlocked

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

You can't unlock the new fear. You have to read the instructions for the new fear to know how to operate the new fear's manual release.

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