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[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Much like the Scots ruining Scotland, liberals seem to delight in ruining liberalism. As time passes, I see liberals more worried about some other liberal's little slot in life. And less and less concerned with getting things done. The Big Picture is eschewed in favor of fighting over minutia.

We get what we are asking for.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (41 children)

The use of the word "tankie" these days is so over-used it has become synonymous with "left of the DNC." I've even seen Anarchists described as "tankies," it's getting ridiculous. Still, the word "tankie" is most often used by liberals against Marxists, though they won't admit to having an anti-Marxist bias, mostly because they think they agree with Marx generally but are unfamiliar with Marxist analysis.

Really, more people need to read theory before having an opinion on it to avoid speaking past each other. I wrote an introductory reading list for Marxism-Leninism if anyone wants to get a better understanding of Marxism.

[–] Whopraysforthedevil@midwest.social 12 points 3 days ago (15 children)

As I said in another comment, Tankies are often in support of the modern Russian state and the modern CCP. These are not positions that are "left of the DNC".

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[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Back when I used reddit it seemed like everyone threw around Fascist in a similar way. Lemmy seems to prefer Tankie. For a lot of people the thinking doesn't go any farther than "I disagree with you, therefore you are ________ist" or whatever.

It is what it is.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It varies from instance to instance. The main users of the word "tankie" are blahaj.zone, lemmy.world, and sh.itjust.works from what I've seen, most other instances generally aren't as bad about it IMO.

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[–] anachronist@midwest.social 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Probably because there are a lot of tankies here. 🙃

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[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

And then there is me who keeps getting called both tankie and liberal.

This is the part where I would normally state my opinion in geopolitics but since both sides have their sources and "fact checks" I won't. I'm tired of this information war. The only geopolitical thing both sides (yes even the great majority of liberals) can actually agree on is the Palestinian genocide. The rest is split between Western and Anti-Western reporting with both sides having blind spots for sources favouring their side whilst denouncing the sources that do not fit their world views.

And whilst we - the economic left - are fighting an unwinnable war over geopolitics the economic right is making the economy less social whilst radicalising in nationalism and conservativism with every election.

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[–] moshtradamus666@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The first time I saw this word being used was here on Lemmy, when I arrived during the reddit exodus. I'm not a native English speaker though.

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