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Hey everyone, I'm new to Lemmy and just starting to figure this site out. I mainly moved here because of the censorship on Reddit where they didn't publish posts that included the slightest word not allowed by their filter and they removed/blocked lots of content. I wonder if it will be somewhat better here (on the official site it says "Censorship resistant - By hosting your own server, you can be in full control of your content.").

The weird thing I saw with Lemmy was when I wanted to sign-up on the "lemmy.ml" server instance that according to the official Lemmy Servers listing page is a "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers".

So I thought I try that one when it's from Lemmy's own developers. When I wanted to sign-up it required an application that you needed to fill out with one of the requirements being having to copy a sentence from the link provided which links to some article called "The Principles of Communism" which I thought was very odd for a site to do. I've never seen a site like this promoting some ideology that directly where it's part of the sign-up process to almost pledge to some political or religious ideology.

This seemed very sketchy to me. Does anyone know something about this?

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

So um here's the thing.

The fediverse is a network of interconnected servers/instances that are independently hosted.

Within the fediverse, there's Lemmy

There are many different "servers" (I'm just gonna call it servers, instances is not a commonly used word) of Lemmy. Each have different owners. But they all run the Lemmy software of their servers.

The Lemmy software is an open source project, contributed by many different people who know how to code. The main developers believe in Marxism-Leninism, basically what countries like USSR and People's Republic of China claim to also follow this ideology (or at least they used to).

lemmy.ml is one of the first servers, run by the main developers.

So there, if you disagree with their ideology, you should probably use a different server.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Main Lemmy devs are communist and aren't shy to enforce their views, which gets reflected in their instance, lemmy.ml, which is considered to be fairly tankie.

However, as Lemmy is federated, you can join any other instance and view whatever interests you without having to recite political literature to sign up.

In fact, the most popular instance is actually lemmy.world, which is not politically affiliated; although it defederated from certain instances, which might make you feel limited. I found lemmy.today as a way to be connected with anything and everything, from Hexbear to Beehaw, to, well, Lemmy.world

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's a list on GitHub of instances by most federation. It's where I found mine.

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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

The original developers of Lemmy are communists who were seeking to create a social media space that would be free from corporate censorship and centralization. When they created ml, they decided to have it be geared towards communists and leftists as their specific flavor of the Lemmy community, because that is what interested them.

If you are looking for a less political and more general instance, I’d recommend:

lemmy.world
sh.itjust.works
lemmy.dbzero.com

[–] Social_Discussion@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Very interesting, thanks for the reply. I signed-up on lemm.ee since that's the 2nd biggest instance on their list. Is this a good server as well? (The description here says: "General-purpose Lemmy instance. New users and communities welcome!")

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago

Any instance whose rules you agree with is good. Picking a big one that's not the biggest is a good call so good job.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, that’s a good one. Honestly, at the end of the day, it matters more what communities you follow than what instance you are on.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Lemme.ee is fine. It wouldn't hurt to have multiple accounts in different instances in case one goes down for maintenance so you can keep browsing. I recommend dbzero since they're techy and don't lean on politics as much as other instances.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

It wouldn’t hurt to have multiple accounts in different instances in case one goes down for maintenance so you can keep browsing.

Grass? Never touch the stuff. Worms fuck in it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Lemm.ee is less politically oriented than any of the 3 that were recommended, by the other user, but it's lesd of an instance and more of a tool for interacting with other instances.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've been happy on lemme.ee for the fact that they didn't get caught up in the defederation drama about a year ago, and that they're mainly a neutral landing instance to go about interacting with other communities on other instances. Other instances will defederate with instances they disagree with, a form of censorship in itself, whereas the admins of lemm.ee leave it to you to block what you don't want to see yourself.

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[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I wonder if it will be somewhat better here.

If you host your own instance, you have complete control over what gets posted. If not, you have to follow your instance's rules.

one of the requirements being having to copy a sentence from the link provided which links to some article called "The Principles of Communism" which I thought was very odd for a site to do.

That's just basic bot detection, like a captcha. Karl Marx's works are out of copyright, and Lemmy's lead developer is a communist, hence the choice.

it's part of the sign-up process to almost pledge to some political or religious ideology.

In general, instances don't expect you to agree with their mods on politics or religion, but the content hosted on that instance would be somewhat biased towards the mods' tastes. So you go from lemmygrad (far-left) to lemmy.ml (centre-left) to lemm.ee (centrist) to shitjustworks (centre-right) to lemmy.world (right-wing). Personally I'd avoid the first and last, but it's up to each person to decide what's right for them.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Is lemmy.world particularly right-wing? It seemed mostly shitty liberal from what I'd noticed, thought admittedly I don't actually pay much attention to people's instances

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Liberals are pro-capitalist, which inherently makes them right wing. American politics would have you believe otherwise, but American politics are severely skewed to make the populace accept the dominance and power of capital as an unassailable truth.

.world also makes a habit of denying ongoing genocides and shutting down any criticism of the parties involved in said genocides. Many of their users go out of their way to shit on left-wing instances and deride anyone left of them as a tankie.

Not to mention the sheer volume of woman bashing I've witnessed in gender-related threads.

So, all that considered, I think it's perfectly fair to consider them right wing.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This seemed very sketchy to me.

👻 A spectre is haunting @Social_Discussion@lemm.ee

Some of Ayn Rand’s earliest works are out of copyright now. Would that have made you more comfortable?

[–] Naadan@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Thank you for posting, OP.

I was thinking about making an account here. Saw this and made one here, to see how the instance would feel like.

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