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[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

"France" comes from the "franks" who were considered Germans originally

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The French invented sex. Before then people would just sort of split into two small people who’d then have to grow back to full size, and it was very boring and not very je ne c’est sais quoi.

[–] CrustyCrinkles@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

*lose the "c'est" to have to correct way of saying it

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 127 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

The French deserve some respect. If you want to know what a true strike or protest looks like, look to the French.

[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 81 points 2 days ago (3 children)

More and more these days French disrespect feels like boomer shit. Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions. The industrial action within the transport sector alone.

I was visiting Paris during some of the aforementioned protest. They’re out and about (in numbers) and will gladly get out to protest when they feel it necessary. Plenty of other western countries could learn, a lot, from the French people.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of it now goes back to the Iraq war, when France refused to join the Coalition of the Willing and invade. Nearly constant derision of the French in the media for a decade will do that to people.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This already started with the Vietnam war, where France warned the US not to get involved. There’s a lesson here but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

It goes back to the 1790s

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I keep saying this and people look at me like I'm some kind of extremist

Like no dude I just want universal healthcare

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

universal healthcare

*me, looking at you like you're some sort of communist

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago

The American right would like to categorize it like that but it's not communism at all, it's socialism. I wish they could mischaracterize the correct political philosophy.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions.

For the record we did get it down from 65 to 64, but we still got +2 years.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Even today, they just don't give a fuck about rules.

In Southern France there are speed cameras being set up everywhere, and they'll catch you for being even a few km's over. The locals (mostly rural) have responded by either torching them, encasing them in hay bales, painting over them, or chopping them down. The police keep putting them up, alongside cameras to watch the cameras, and the locals keep destroying them overnight.

Fortunately my area doesn't allow this nonsense, but I'd totally be down for some infrastructure vandalism if they ever try.

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[–] cmder@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So yeah why does the american/english don't do more research about origins and call everything french ?

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

It's because deep frying was not very common in the U.S. Immersion in hot fat was considered a French style of cooking, so they're French style fried potatoes. I think "fries" instead of "frieds" is dialect that caught on nationally in the U.S. in the 70s.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it never occurred to anyone ever to stick their tongues in each others mouths until it was documented in ancient India.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago

Anon didn't say that it started in ancient India, just that the fact that it happened in ancient India proves that it didn't start in France

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

We generally attribute discoveries to whoever documented it first. It's almost laughable to attribute it to the French based on a kissing style that was widespread there in 1923. Surely people were doing it before then. Yet, the Americans and British found it so unique they referred to it as French kissing.

Perhaps it was common before ancient India, but then the question is, why didn't the ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, Chinese, Romans, and Greek document on it then?

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Arabic numerals came to Europe from India via Arabia. The Sine function does too, but it's name is garbled and doesn't mean anything.

Venetian blinds came from Persia via Venice.

Spanish Flu was everywhere, but everyone at the time was lying about it due to being at war, except for Spain.

Many First Nations peoples are known by what other peoples called them (often pejorative names) rather than their name for themselves.

Words usually aren't authoritative declarations of truth, but rather snapshots of what was a useful distinction to someone somewhere a some time. Did the French think their style of kissing was a unique cultural phenomenon? Will Skibidi be known about in 500 years? No one documents graffiti, was it "discovered" by Pompeii?

We live in a truely unique age, where nearly any question can have a relavent answer of some kind in moments. We can see people streaming everyday things from around the globe, or find the best research about what we know about ancient people's daily lives. Is any of this worth carving into a monument though? How many copies of an archeological journal are going to survive the ages vs copies of Game of Thrones? I'd say there are countless things about our lives we think are special to today that even prehistoric people did, it just isn't notable enought to build monuments to or copy manuscripts of.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's the thing. France and Belgium call french fries "frites" and "frieten", which just translates to "fries". It's other cultures that gave them (wrong) names because of how they got to know them.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

We barely document how we wipe our asses or shower because it's such a mundane, day to day thing.

Writing was limited, so I hypothesize that people would focus on important things like tax collections, kingly births or even that cunt Ea-Nasir. Less so on kissing or things they would find mundane.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

More like "The French have good PR".

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Belgium is kinda France tbh

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's almost like national borders are fake and peoples just blend into each other

Yeah, as an American, I really wish we had more open borders.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Wait what.. But. the.. Wall

[–] lemon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kunde gij da nog ‘s herhalen?

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago

La Belgique c'est un peu la France /s

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The first step is admitting it

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Britain is the land mass that includes England, Wales, and Scotland.

William the Conquerer was the first Norman king of England and never had power over Wales and he was mostly successful in gaining homage from King Malcolm III, but never king over the lands.

Edward I about two hundred years later almost pulls it off, but doesn't quite get a firm grip on Scotland. James I in the early 17th century holds the crown for each of the lands. In 1707 they formalize the relationship with a treaty.

So... No the French did not found Britain.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Also Normans were descendants of viking settlers. So French didn't technically fund England either (yes, I'm being pedantic for the sake of the joke).

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[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

> Britain was founded by the French

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon? The son of an Irish immigrant? He’s not the kind of guy who’d let facts get in the way of an opinion so we’re probably pretty solid saying that in front of him. If he did run his mouth, then I got your back, blud.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (28 children)

Nobody in France calls French fries or French toast "French". We're definitely happy to attribute the fries to our Belgian friends and nobody thinks something as ubiquitous as toasts could have a single inventor. I think those are Anglo-Saxon cultural elements.

[–] olosta@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No we are not attributing fries to the Belgian, fries are french. The Belgian improved on our invention and make the best fries, but Frenchs invented it.

Content warning, a lot of french: https://www.musee-gourmandise.be/fr/musee-gourmandise/articles-de-fond?view=article&id=132:la-veritable-histoire-de-la-frite&catid=77:articles-fond

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Also here we call it "cafetière à piston" not french press.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just have to triple check whether French revolution occured in French.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Which gives rise to the true founding father of Germany. Napoleon.

Without his restructuring of the HRE for management it would be even harder to unify later.

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To save anyone else the wiki trip

“Some authors consider the recipe for Aliter Dulcia (translated as 'Another sweet dish') included in the Apicius, a 1st-century CE Ancient Roman cuisine cookbook, "not very different" from modern French toast, although it does not involve eggs.[10][11]

In Le Viandier, culinary cookbook written around 1300, the French chef Guillaume Taillevent presented a recipe for tostées dorées[12] involving eggs and sugar.[13]”

[–] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

When a dish with 3 ingredients is missing one ingredient, it's not the same dish.

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is not the French claiming ownership of stuff, this is shitty naming on the part of Americans who thinks all european food is from France. Or who really wouldn't know the difference between Europe and France to begin with.

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