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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Too little, too late. If Biden wanted to salvage his reputation at all, he'd have to do a hell of a lot more than authorizing something Ukraine has been asking for for a long-ass time now.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He should transfer like a trillion dollars of military equipment. It's an official act, so he'd be immune from prosecution.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How many nukes is that, because that's probably what it would take.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of proliferation of nukes to an unstable region.

But top-tier stealth fighters and bombers, anti-aircraft systems that can track hundreds of miles into Russia, tanks, a navy, and all the guns, bombs, armor, and electronic warfare equipment they'll accept sounds good.

Hell - give them the classified future-tech shit.

Make the Ukraine the best-equipped military in Europe with the stroke of a pen.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

uNsTaBle rEgioN

Why's it unstable?

[–] Ahrotahntee@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

I bet it's lack of nukes.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I'm all for driving out Russia and making Ukraine free. But the reality is that it will have problems with political stability after this war, and with unstable countries veering right these days, the last thing we need is a fragile country with a right-wing nut job next door to its enemy armed with nukes.

Nukes are a great deterrent as long as nobody uses them.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but nukes are to prevent war not to be used as a defense.

Ukraine should just never have dismantled their nukes in the first place.

A better method would be to just allow Ukraine into the EU even though "not being at war" is one of the prerequisites.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

They did, on the promise that they would be taken care of. The moral of the story is, if you have nukes, you have to keep them now.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Strike. Singular. Cuz in a couple months Trump will take over and put that on ice.

Biden could do a whole lot more -- but won't.

[–] BoobaAwooga@lemmynsfw.com 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nah man. I won’t refer to Biden as anything, but the man who had the power to stop trump but never did

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why blame Biden for Trumps actions?

[–] BoobaAwooga@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstand. I just won’t be calling Biden “uncle Joe” or the like because he has all the information and power in the world to have brought trump to justice, but didn’t

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How could he bring Trump to justice as a president?

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Could've shot him in the face and then got a presidential pardon. Jokes aside, so many people overestimate the power of the US president.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I mean, didn't the supreme court literally make it legal for the president to assassinate political rivals? Biden just didn't have the stones to drop those fascist fucks into a black site.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I don't think Biden would want to be the one to start that habit

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Except a MAGA congress gets to determine if it was okay.

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[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

This is how I see it. I doubt trump hesitates.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I read somewhere that decision only applies for that specific instance. Meaning it was only for Trump.

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could have seal team sixed his ass

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He has immunity and won’t use it for the greater good

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Immunity from what? How could he use that immunity to bring Trump to justice?

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[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you feel he should have done that he didn’t do?

[–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Allow the usage of long range missiles.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Early in the invasion of Ukraine Russia shared video of a functional hypersonic missle that could deliver nukes past all current air defenses. That was why he was hesitant to escalate by using long range missles.

If I remember right, since then we’ve found that Russias hypersonic missles cannot steer at hypersonic speeds and have had some misfires making them less of a threat. That plus the fact that Trump is months away from helping Russia, the strategy has changed.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why excuse the inaction that brought trump back to power?

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What inaction are you referring to? What do you feel he should’ve done that he didn’t do?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Replaced Garland with someone who would actually do their job.

He could have also just shot Trump in the face, because the SC gave him a blank check to do whatever.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Replaced Garland with someone who would actually do their job.

What should he do differently? Trump has claimed that the DOJ has been weaponized to keep him from becoming president. If the court of public opinion believes that (and a lot of people do) then Merrick Garland has to be absolutely sure he can win a case before prosecuting Trump otherwise more people will believe it’s just a ‘witch hunt’ and it will be harder to try again.

He could have also just shot Trump in the face, because the SC gave him a blank check to do whatever.

The SC ruling was that Presidents have immunity when exercising the “core powers” of the presidency. I doubt shooting Trump in the face would be considered that and it would only empower future presidents to do the same.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Trump is a threat to the constitution. The president has an obligation to protect it.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Ergo, shooting Trump in the face would be a core power of the president.

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[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

So you'd replace Garland and the new AG would do what, exactly? Fire Jack Smith?

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Its so annoying that when sleepy joe wakes up he actually does pretty good things. I think if biden would be kamala age he would actually be a better president as he seems much more progressive and has some pretty good policies. Of course theres gaza but that whole situation is such a mess.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 18 points 2 days ago

Joe daring Vlad to actually start that war he keeps talking about.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

If a certain orange haired moldy cheeto is gonna stop funding them, it's the least he can do with the last of his time. Let Ukraine give Russia a love letter in the form of missiles being allowed to strike deep into enemy territory.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Uncle Joe or Dark Brandon

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I don't think that'll make a huge difference. The minute the US stops supplying, Ukraine's in trouble.

[–] AliSaket@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

So Trump would have made annexation through military force acceptable. Instead we have Putin now changing Russia's nuclear doctrine to: Attacking in Russia, even with conventional weapons, merits a nuclear response. A member of a union will be considered as the union as a whole. And generally lowered the level of threat (to 'sovereignty' instead of the former 'existence'). https://www.newsweek.com/russia-putin-nuclear-doctrine-1988843

I don't see this ending well. The Ukrainians, who are getting the missiles do not only have their own interest of not conceding any territory, but also the interest in getting others, primarily the U.S. involved in a direct confrontation.

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