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The petition is open to all EU resident. The goal is to replace all Windows in all public institution in Europe with a sovereign GNU/Linux.

If the petition is successful it would be a huge step forward for GNU/Linux adoption.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 142 points 2 days ago (28 children)

It’s ridiculous that governments don’t use customized Unix/Linux builds.

[–] erin@social.sidh.bzh 57 points 2 days ago

well that's what this law proposition is about... Better late than never but for it to be passed a maximum of EU resident should sign that petition

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny enough, I'm working in IT in government exclusively with Linux for the past 20 years, which shows that indeed it's possible.

There are a few reasons I don't believe a petition like this will change a thing though

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

I expect 100% already do. Its ridiculous that they're not forced to, though

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[–] bustAsh@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (11 children)

My main worry with Linux becoming more popular is that it will be attacked with more malware and viruses. I wouldn't mind though if Linux programmers could come up with better protection.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Linux-based OSes are less uniform than Windows. They could and probably will be targeted, but exploits won't spread because of how many verities they are and how different and incompatible they can be. Some, for example, don't even use the GNU utils and userland.

[–] gens@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

That is mostly false. Most of the code that faces the network is the same. As is most of the background running code. Linux is still more secure.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe it's too early in the morning, anyone got a link, I couldn't find any?

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 26 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Double edged sword. Forced adoption of a shitty distro, or a really locked down/limited system might not be a step forward at all.

From memory, Germany did this many years ago, and ended up rolling it back?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They then switched back to Linux

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No, it isn't a double edged sword. Even a mediocre distro would be better than Windows, any distro would be cheaper than Windows, and there's no reason to choose a bad distro anyway.

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[–] fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

https://www.techspot.com/news/102518-windows-microsoft-office-replaced-linux-libreoffice-german-state.html

The 30,000 employees of Schleswig-Holstein's local government will be moving to Linux and LibreOffice as the state pushes for what it calls "digital sovereignty," a reference to non-EU companies not gathering troves of user data so European firms can compete with these foreign rivals.

Munich, the capital of German state Bavaria, switched from Windows to Linux-based LiMux in 2004, though it switched back in 2017 as part of an IT overhaul. Wanting Microsoft to move its headquarters to Munich likely played a part in returning to Windows, too.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Then they went back to Linux a few years pater

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Government systems should be locked down and limited.

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[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

afaik Bayern rolled back to Windows after some Microsoft "lobbying"

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

Precisely the city of Munich had its LiMux system.

[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Solution: don't ship a shitty distro. This is the sort of issue that actual IT professionals need final say in. Not the MBAs. Not the politicals. The people who actually know what they're doing. Additionally, years ago Linux was in a much different place. It's really matured into something more suitable for both the average end user as well as professional adoption.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That argument would be fine, if only the Linux community could actually agree on what is a good distro.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Basically everyone in the community agrees that Mint, Ubuntu and Fedora are the best choices for new users. Mint and Ubuntu are pretty similar, so they don't require separate maintenance effort, and supporting Fedora is not that hard, if you already support RHEL, CentOS or another rpm-based distro (which are pretty common in the enterprise space). For all the desktop applications, Flatpak exists and is agreed on as the standard format by most of the desktop Linux community.

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[–] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

"I'd just like to interject for a moment..."

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