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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 minutes ago

What company could actually afford to buy it other than Google, Meta, or Amazon? Unless they are forced to sell it at a loss, which is fine with me.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Sell it to me, I'll buy it for one dollar.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

sell it to Microsoft so they can finally have a web browser that people use

[–] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 1 hour ago

Yes, the anti-trust lawsuit should culminate in one part of a tech giant being sold to another tech giant.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft run Chrome clone? But they already have Edge

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Which no one willingly uses

[–] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

I use it and love it tbh

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

it was good at launch, but they've added so much bloat

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ouch@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Imagine where the software industry would be without all the lost productivity because of MSIE quirks.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 86 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This is the last antitrust win we'll get for years, isn't it?

I know Trump doesn't like Big Tech, but I doubt his admin will punish them meaningfully, but just rail about censorship.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

Our govt is pay for play at this point, I struggle to see anything like this going through, especially so close to a new AG appointment.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 62 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't a win I think. They are yet to meet in the court with Google.

The DOJ will file a revised version of its proposals in early March, before the government and Google return to the DC District Court in April for a two-week remedies trial.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 83 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Ehh just fight it for a month pay king trump some money and bam their golden.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 1 points 36 minutes ago

The fact that this is TOTALLY WITHIN REALM OF REALITY is PROOF that Trump is Draining The Swamp!

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Google ditched their "don't be evil" motto, so yeah, this is on the table.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 41 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

This is exactly what will happen. Same thing with Albertsons and Kroger too.

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[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Who would buy this and how would they monetize it? In browser ads? A freemium paid model to remove the ads?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'll bid $3.50 just to GPL it.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 23 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

People wondering what Chrome has to do with a search monopoly:

The obvious benefit is that they can default the user's search provider to Google.

But the more nefarious benefit is that, by controlling both the client and server, they can unilaterally decide the future of web standards. They don't have to advocate for proposals, gain consensus, and limit themselves to well-supported standards the way other companies do. They can just do it, gain the first-mover advantage, and force others to follow suit.

If they don't like HTTP/2, they can invent their own protocol and implement it for their search servers and Chrome. Suddenly, using Chrome with Google Search is way faster than using Chrome with Bing or using Firefox with Google Search. Even if Microsoft and Mozilla don't like the protocol, they now have to adopt it or fall behind.

This has happened. QUIC was deployed in 2012. Firefox gained support in 2021.

They're doing the same thing with Privacy Sandbox, and you can also look at browser feature compatibility tables to see how eager Google is to force their own interpretation of every not-yet-finalized web standard as the canonical interpretation.

Edit: Also, JPEG XL vs. WebP.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 159 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Kent Walker, says the DOJ is pushing “a radical interventionist agenda that would harm Americans and America’s global technology leadership.”

I'm honestly curious how this would "harm Americans".

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

It harms wealthy asshole Americans at Google.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The same ruling would ban Google from paying other browsers to make Google the default search engine.
This would kill Firefox and make Chromium the only browser engine that's left.

[–] penfore@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That's really sad...

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 66 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

That statement is technically true.

The billionaire owners are Americans.

[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Everyone really does need to have that at the forefront of their mind. When the C-suit, wall street, and politicians talk about "Americans" they aren't talking about us schlubs.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 76 points 19 hours ago

Google pretending they have any other nationality other then “the global internet” is cute in a disgusting way.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer sounds like Donald Trump

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 41 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Just...please for the love of whatever dirty do Microsoft. Fucking sick of their shit recently with One Drive.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a few minutes to learn about our lord and savior Linux?

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Man the Linux propaganda is STRONG on Lemmy. I'll say what I've said before: I use my computer for gaming, web browsing, and managing a media server for my family that hosts pictures and other things. If those 3 things can be done easily without issue on a Linux distro without having to fuck around with configs every time I want to do something, I'm all in. By what I've heard though it's just not there yet. I am super happy Steam decided to go Linux for their Steamdeck though as I've heard thats helped make monumental strides the right direction. Trust me, I want to. Large part of it is I worked tech support for over a decade and having to troubleshoot my own shit is like the furthest thing I want to deal with haha

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 27 minutes ago

Just going to say, I do those things too, on Linux, and while I can't say I never have to mess with config files, it's not frequent. And, the computer acting like it's my computer rather than on loan from a megacorp is nice.

It's not all the way there yet but it's so very close and the bits that are still pain points aren't nearly as bad as the pain points of Windows.

As the other commenter said, you should give it a serious try. Mint is very smooth overall.

[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hey I will give my anecdotal recent experience. Several months ago I switched to Pop! OS and have had basically no issues. I have an Nvidia GPU and I play a lot of games. I don't play any games that are blocked by anti cheat (not because I can't, I just don't happen to play the few that are blocked).

I spent the first day getting everything signed in, installed, set up and tweaked to how I like it with very minimal terminal usage. Mostly gui and clicking.

Steam+Proton along with lutris makes it easy to play any game for me.

Side note: I have 4 monitors of varying resolution, size, orientation and refresh rate and it hasn't caused problems other than the initial setup (I used cursr to help with this)

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh God I didn't even think about monitors. I only have one but it's the stupid big ultra wide by Samsung. I honestly play most games in windowed. Wondering if there's resolution support on the actual os though. The rest is like...5120 x something.

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you can live without games having invasive anticheat, then everything should be doable, and probably a lot easier than in Windows.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah not really into multiplayer competitive games. Indo play a lot of co op though. Will have to find a list somewhere.

[–] hangonasecond@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Proton DB is the place to go. But I don't check 99% of games I play, unless it's going to be an expensive purchase and I want to check before I buy. I also don't bother with people's suggested tweaks on proton db unless I actually personally experience issues. The only game I've had to tweak so far has been cyberpunk 2077.

Edit: added context, I'm on 2 monitors and one of them is an ultrawide. Never had any issues that aren't similar to issues I've experienced on Windows in the past.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You owe it to yourself to try it out! I recommend dual booting into Linux Mint Cinnamon for a while and have your windows install to fall back on to. That or one of the gaming-specific distributions, but from what I’ve seen Mint does all with gaming too. It’s a good all-around starting place, and there are a lot of resources because it’s popular and built off of the most popular distro. I installed it on my work machine (software engineering) and I’ve felt no lack of capability or a need to switch to a more “hardcore” distro.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Thanks! Appreciate the type up and suggestion. I'll add it to my list of ones to try out.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 16 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Hot take: they sell Chrome but keep Chromium.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 18 points 13 hours ago

Seeing how tech illiterate some of these people are, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what ends up happening

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