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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 31 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I will never not read "bluesky" as "bloo-skee"

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago

It will always be "bluey-skibidi"

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

"Toss me a bluesky, there feller."

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago

Mom!

Dad!

Bingo!!

Bluesky!!!

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So how can I follow them from Mastodon?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

This is my question too. Search results turn up Bridgy Fed, but that seems to require the account you're interested in following to go through those steps, which none of the accounts I'm interested in are doing. At least the Threads POTUS account turned on federation so I can view it from Mastodon, but I suspect for the next four years, that account will be pretty quiet, and if it isn't, I'll probably want it to be.

[–] mke@programming.dev 161 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

You could say Bluesky is... picking up Steam, eh?

Sorry, I have no new or interesting insights to offer, I'd hope most already get what's happening, anyway.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry about not having any insights, I still valve-ued the pun.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 11 points 9 hours ago

It's nice to see other people enjoy the pun. Would be shame for it to be left4dead

[–] x3x3@lemm.ee 11 points 10 hours ago (4 children)
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 minutes ago

Twitter was bluesky before musk bought it, federation ensures that can't easily happen to mastodon.

That's it.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Centralized and private = enshitification

Self hosted and federated = not prone to enshitification

Idk how simple it has to be for people but clearly I'm over estimating people

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Okay. Now, explain the concept of enshitification. And do it using terms that regular folk won't find crass.

You know how conservatives live in this bubble where they don't even see their racism because it's so normalized? We're interacting within a bubble where everyone has a very high level of technical competence versus the average person, so we fail to understand just how tech illiterate others are.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Company focus on profit. even if mean overall experience get not gooder

I dumbed it down to caveman speech for those that still wouldn't understand. It's a simple concept all of use that have used the Internet in the past year have experienced.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?

Billionares with mega yacht fleets are choosing bluesky over mastodon.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Like it or not, a regular person doesn't give two shits about that.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Talk for yourself, the average person does indeed care about the environment. In the past years there have been massive greenwashing campaigns from companies trying to please the average customer.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 1 points 1 minute ago

Man, I wanna live in your neighborhood. I'm surrounded by bougie people or people with bougie fantasies. They talk all the time about drinking wine on a boat.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah because it doesn't cost them anything to say they "do their part" when they make token "commitments". It's not because the average person gives a shit. Give them a choice - $5 more an hour, or instantly and forever solve climate change and see how many people would choose climate change.

People complain about having to sort trash before throwing it out. Saying "most people care about the environment" is extremely naive.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 hours ago

5-second quip

Someone like Musk is impossible here

Freedom from tyrants, maybe

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It gives space to do servers based on specific interests if you want. I'm part of a game development server, and my "Local" tab has people on my server often talking about, and showing, things that are related to game development. And I can still follow anyone from any other Mastodon server too.

If you're into video games, film, maybe a specific genre of music, you can have an instance dedicated to that. (It might already exist.) It's like a virtual neighborhood, or forum. Remember forums? Those were nice. They cultivated a sense of community which made people a little more responsible in their attitudes, it feels like. Maybe that's just nostalgia, but I like the server I'm on. It's got friendly people I can talk to without feeling the need to fill my follows with them.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 3 points 4 hours ago

Yes! I'm on a local regional server that is nice. I like that it's locally owned and operated, and we can talk local news and events.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Oh so just like Discord, why would I need something new, I already have Discord.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 43 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Because people moved to bluesky and not to mastodon.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not true, Mastodon has millions of users

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

And blue sky got like 15 millions in two weeks. Look, do you really think that everyone decided to diss Mastodon? All major companies, celebrities, sport teams, you name it? Or maybe there's a more reasonable explanation why Bluesky?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

Look, do you really think that everyone decided to diss Mastodon? All major companies, celebrities, sport teams, you name it?

Look that's what is happening

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Their main business and source of money is a proprietary centralized platform. Mastodon is the opposite.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Because casual mainstream basic folk (non-techie) don't like the slight legwork you need to do and understand the Fediverse

I saw an article from Yahoo (Source: The Independent) last week about Bluesky's current success from Xitter refugees and it also listed other similar groups like Mastedon. What didn't surprise me is that they said Mastedon is predominantly "techie" which includes the majority of it's user base as "supernerds" with the site having the "steepest learning curve." This was an op-ed from an outsider.

Until Mastedon can appeal to simple minded mainstream basic folk (which is a pretty good size of netizens) it will always be a niche group.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Until fediverse advocates stop thinking of people as simple minded, they will never understand the steps needed to be relevant.

The main advantage to Bluesky’s architecture is centralized identity and distributed components.

The centralized identity is key. Unless someone figures out a way to do this in activitypub, the fediverse will remain niche.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago

That's more or less what NOSTR is trying to achieve

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[–] Octospider@lemm.ee 26 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I wonder why is Mastodon is not appealing to Valve.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 hours ago

Bluesky has 20x the user base (and the gap is growing wider every day).

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 57 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Reach?

If I wasn't on Lemmy, I wouldn't even know about Mastodon. It's not really something you hear of outside of the fediverse, in my experience. Meanwhile, BlueSky is gaining traction and talked about everywhere. Most people don't care that it's not exactly decentralized. Most of the things the users on the fediverse care about are not things the average, not-very-tech-saavy person cares about.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago

Bluesky has a good new user experience, too. Even if you do know about Mastodon, making an account is like"Welcome - figure it out, lol"

I'd bet if they went the other way, they'd get significantly fewer people signing up for the service...Steam caters to both nerds and casuals alike

[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 22 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I really enjoy Mastodon, but it seems to be too confusing with all the servers. I don’t know why, but maybe because people have been conditioned by big tech to use centralised services. Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.

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[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 43 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

And Valve and Steamdeck accounts.

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