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Hey! Thanks to the whole Reddit mess, I’ve discovered the fediverse and its increidible wonders and I’m lovin’ it :D

I’ve seen another post about karma, and after reading the comments, I can see there is a strong opinion against it (which I do share). I’d love to hear your opinions, what other method/s would you guys implement? If any ofc

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[–] TotalCasual@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

People like big numbers. Karma systems exist because they encourage posting and engagement. Stifling growth because Karma is toxic is bad for everyone in the long run. What matters is growth.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One feature I liked a lot from RES was the ability to tag users, which I used to flag users and remember who they are and what their general opinions are on issues. It made arguing more interesting since I didn't have to rerun over the same old conflicts with people who will never budge on certain issues.

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[–] mykl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every system that can be thought of (and has been suggested here) might sound great but when implemented at scale will no doubt prove to be open to abuse and require an army of mods to oversee. Otherwise every multi-million dollar social media company would have implemented it already.

Upvotes and downvotes and cumulative scores kind of do the job well enough that that’s what we keep ending up with.

That being said though, I would be interested in seeing a system where each downvote you make also counts against your own karma to discourage profligate use of the downvote to mean “I have a different opinion but can’t express it here”.

[–] joeyshabadu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I do like that. Perhaps an exponential factor where if you downvote 10 comments you lose 1 karma, downvote 20 you lose 10 karma, etc.

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Am I the only one who purged reddit accounts when it became too personal?

[–] Niello@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If there has to be something then probably karma that is strictly for the past month of activities.

[–] SuperSoftAbby@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still firmly believe one of the worst things to happen to the internet, besides pop-up ads, is up and down votes. Nothing exposes a misanthrope quicker than forcing them to comment instead of passively downvoting everything they see. Which makes it easier to remove them from the party.

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[–] gzrrt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

How about just ignoring the whole concept? I.e., voting in individual threads to rank comments, and that's it.

[–] ninbreaker@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly it's pretty good to have the transparency of who is up voting, and down voting. Makes it easier to figure out who's farming or not. It's pretty good against the trolls too imo.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Personally, I enjoy how 4chan does it. Posts are anonymous and seen in chronological order. There are no upvotes/downvotes and no karma or e-peen linked to accounts. Also, everything is temporary and gets deleted off the site completely eventually.

The pros are that you have to judge posts based on its content and nothing else, and can't look through someone's post history and stalk them across the site.

The cons are that you have to shift through tonnes of shitposts just to find decent content which will eventually get deleted. You can't find the top posts of all time, because they're gone. The system also makes it a great place for trolls. 4chan has so many of them that threads entirely made up of trolls trolling trolls is a thing.

If you're looking for a site that ranks the best content then a voting system is needed. If you're looking for discussion then a voting system and permanent accounts only get in the way.

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

MeowMeowBeenz would work wonders.

[–] cumcum69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why not keep the scores hidden and just use them to order stuff?

[–] boopdepop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I like it as it is to be honest.

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