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Hey! Thanks to the whole Reddit mess, I’ve discovered the fediverse and its increidible wonders and I’m lovin’ it :D

I’ve seen another post about karma, and after reading the comments, I can see there is a strong opinion against it (which I do share). I’d love to hear your opinions, what other method/s would you guys implement? If any ofc

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[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I had a twinge of regret the first time I realized that my Lemmy account didn't have a cumulative tally. Then I realized I didn't actually want. I am better off without the gamification of everything - especially social interaction. It doesn't really serve a purpose outside of gatekeeping, and if we put it in for the purpose of gatekeeping I think we'd all agree (at least those of us who where bot-modded back in reddit) that it's a poor substitute for human intervention in keeping bots and bad actors out.

[–] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Other methods of what?

[–] realbaconator@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

As an also recently-former user, I don't feel like Reddit gets to own the upvote/downvote function, and I still like it more than some like FB/Twitter/YT Thumbs Up. I think it would be cool for some independent communities to remove the function for more team-oriented conversations, but on the larger forums like .world is turning out to be it should remain as is.

[–] scarrexx@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Initially I was bummed out about not having internet points here like on reddit. However after considering the fluidity this offers... like being whoever you want to be anywhere you want... being able to migrate from one server to another... etc ithink I'd rather we keep it this way to avoid complications

[–] ogg42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yah, karma was garbage, I think we are better off without it.

[–] VGarK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you implement any other system?

[–] ogg42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nope, its fine the way it is.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The worst part about using reddit when I first signed up was having to deal with celebrity redditors with bajillions of karma sucking all the air out of any thread they visited. Thankfully, it seems like over time people calmed down a bit with that, or maybe I just started browing non-defaults with more tight-knit communities, but you still have dumb novelty accounts that kind of ruin the experience (if you've ever been got by /u/shittymorph, you know what I'm talking about).

[–] wosat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need the karma-equivalent of PageRank. Every vote should not be treated the same, just as Google doesn't weight every link equally. The "one user one vote" system is the equivalent of pre-Google search engines that would rank pages by how many times they contained the search term. But it can't be as simple as "votes from higher-karma users are worth more" because the easiest way to build insane karma is to build a bot or spam low-effort replies to every rising post. Still, the system needs to be able to extract the wisdom of the crowd from the stupidity of the crowd, and the only way to do that is to apply a weighting gradient to users and their votes.

[–] VGarK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would you separate the wisdom of the crowd from its stupidity?

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't care less about karma, what I really want is a way to see what I upvote, otherwise I feel that what I upvote is meaningless (for myself, I like to boost content that I like though).

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Karma should have a half-life, so it's not a forever thing. Have each karma point lose half of its value every three days. Makes it more transitory.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the awards system from Reddit could work, just without it being monetized. The awards let you see how people feel about the comment, and it’s more than just good/bad, like/dislike.

[–] VGarK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another user mentioned something like that! I like the idea :D

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