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Property developer and CEO Tim Gurner: "We need to see unemployment rise. Unemployment has to jump 40, 50 percent in my view. We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around."

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[-] baggins@lemmy.ca 179 points 3 years ago

We need to see guillotining of CEOs jump 40-50%.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 22 points 3 years ago

Adding 40% to 0 is still 0 - we need to add, like, a million %.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago

How about we start with one then try your idea

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[-] roadside_yeti@sh.itjust.works 135 points 3 years ago

Counterpoint: maybe he needs to learn that he'd be nothing without the backs of the workers for him to stand on.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 84 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Just want to clear the record and say that every business owner thinks this, it's just that this jackass has the stupidity to say it out loud. They don't want to pay more, which has become a necessity since the pandemic due to low unemployment rates. By having a larger labor pool, they can cut wages to take advantage of people's desperation.

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[-] deconstruct@lemm.ee 75 points 3 years ago

This is the "Millenials eat too much avocado toast" guy. He lives on rage bait and generating headlines.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 22 points 3 years ago

Yeah I'm not giving this guy a second thought. He's just an idiot

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 62 points 3 years ago

This is the guy that made the original avocado toast comment. He is prime eat the rich material of ever there was any.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 49 points 3 years ago

He should see what we did to the czars and repeat himself.

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

This angers me. If it wasn't for employees many employers be living in a box under the turnpike, because shit doesn't get done by wishful thinking alone.

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 45 points 3 years ago

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around.

Employment is a mutually-beneficial agreement. I pity whoever has that CEO as a boss that thinks so lowly of their subordinates. We need to remind employers that they also depend on their employees.

[-] gbuttersnaps@programming.dev 45 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

For everyone saying "A 50% increase in unemployment would only take us from 3.8% to 5.7%, that's not bad" keep in mind that 37,000 people die for every 1% increase in unemployment. This man is essentially wishing for the deaths of 70,000 americans.

Edit: just realized he's probably talking about Australia from his accent. Not sure about the numbers for Australia on unemployment deaths, but I imagine the point should still stand.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 years ago

Yes, deaths, but also wishing for poverty and misery. What a humane soul.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago

keep in mind that 37,000 people die for every 1% increase in unemployment. This man is essentially wishing for the deaths of 70,000 americans.

Wait really? How?

[-] gbuttersnaps@programming.dev 24 points 3 years ago

Economic instability has been found to increase overall mortality, infant deaths, fatalities from cardiovascular disease, cirrhosis, suicide, and homicide as well as morbidities, alcoholism and admissions to mental hospitals. M Harvey Brenner has publications studying the phenomenon going all the way back to the 50s if you're interested in the scientific literature.

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[-] quams69@lemmy.world 37 points 3 years ago

Holy shit what an actual psychopath

[-] cjo@lemm.ee 36 points 3 years ago

Keep in mind that “jump 40-50%” is not the same as “unemployment at 40-50%”…your headline is sensationalist (or just a misunderstanding of the numbers). This guy’s take is still absurd, regardless.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 12 points 3 years ago

Absurdly evil af.

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[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago

I heard "Let them eat cake."

Both in the sense that this is a bullshit thing to say, and in the sense that this is the sort of thing that, if misquoted, could get innocent (at least of saying something like that) people hurt.

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[-] Tischkante@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 3 years ago

This goes right into my spreadsheet of examples how winning at capitalism does not require much intelligence or foresight. In fact, too much of either hurts your chances.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago

All it requires is an incredible amount of egocentrism and a dash of psychopathy.

[-] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago

Not agreeing with the sentiment, but your title is wrong, OP. He didn't say unemployment should be 40-50%. He said it should increase by 40-50%, which equates to a move from 3.8% to 5.7%

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago

Can we start with the CEOs?

[-] IndefiniteBen@feddit.nl 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

About 40-50% culling of management would hopefully lead to a more sustainable system.

Their relentless hunt for profits is damaging every ecosystem they enter.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 years ago

Tim is literally a freeloader making money off of other people's labor... scum. . .

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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 years ago

He needs to see pain in his life.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago

Does he really not understand that employers make their money from their employees?

[-] foo@programming.dev 15 points 3 years ago

He got his start with a loan from his grandfather and with extensive support from his boss

[-] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 10 points 3 years ago

No, you see, employers just give employees jobs out of the goodness of their hearts. And that's why we need to worship them. All hail the "job creators", who don't at all lay off thousands and thousands of their employees the second they're no longer needed (like we've seen happen in tech tons this year).

[-] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 years ago

So like, how would one go about trying to figure out where this guy lives?

[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago

If I see this fuckwit in the street I’m laying him out.

[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 19 points 3 years ago

So I guess that means corporations are actually hoping for a recession so they can "tighten the belt" and fire some workers and the remaining ones will work extra hard to make up the difference. Again.

[-] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

The beatings will continue until ~~morale~~ productivity improves.

Edit: Sorry, morale is irrelevant.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 years ago

He is free to stop hiring if he thinks that way. If unemployment jumps it's because business is in the shitter.

[-] Andjhostet@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago
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[-] natecox@programming.dev 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

A 1% increase is associated with 37000 additional deaths. 40% unemployment would be classicide.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago

Not to defend this PoS but I think he means a 40% increase to unemployment, as in if unemployment is at 10% he thinks it should be 14%.

[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

US unemployment rate is 3.8% as of August, so this guy is calling for roughly 70k people to die so that he can get back to his power fantasy and his pesky employees will stop having uncomfortable conversations with him about petty grievances like "feeding their families" and "keeping a roof over their head"

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 years ago

Who's taking bets on how long until this guy's head is left in a box for another billionaire to open?

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[-] jaiden@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago

No, that's completely wrong.

He said it should go UP by 40-50% ie about 6% - which is still low by Australian standards.

Unemployment averaged 8% in the 1980s and 10% in the 1990s.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 10 points 3 years ago

He is a fucking Property Developer. That is the definition of someone who doesn’t actually do any real work.

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