Why are the Labour Party still campaigning for the votes of the Daily Mail and true-blue Tories?
this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2024
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Stuff like this is a vote winner according to the feedback they get in focus groups.
You guys have benefits?
For trainers and joggers. Yes.
Always been the case.
Not news. Just stating the current policy that has always been in place.
But Chatbots are supposed to be able to do all our work now (except for entrepreneurship which is absolutely not a combination of privilege and dumb luck). Make your mind up, Liz Kendall!
What benefits?
Well, yeah.
If you can't work, fine. If you won't work, that's different.
Why? Why should we all have to work just to survive? Productivity is so immensely high with computers and machines that work is not a requirement for life or society like it once was. A smaller percentage of the population can work than before for the same overall output.
Work should improve your life. You put something in, you get something out (pay). Now you can go and improve your life somehow by buying goods and/or services. But needing to work just for the bare basics of food and shelter is ridiculous in the modern age. We're a rich country, we should be able to afford to feed and home our population with ease and yet constantly in political discourse there's talk of benefits "scroungers" "stealing" money they "don't deserve", usually for pitifully small amounts of money as well.
Productivity is so immensely high with computers
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂.
Oh wait, you're serious?
Why? Why should we all have to work just to survive?
Do you happen to have rich parents?
Hahahaha most certainly not!
I'm not saying I don't work, I'm saying it's unnecessarily forced upon us for the enrichment of the capitalist class and not required to the extent that it is for society to function in the modern age.
A lot of business is just business for the sake of business. Pushing people to consume regardless of whether they want or need to, or not. If people truly wanted half the shit they buy the advertising and marketing industry wouldn't be so big.
If you're on benefits for whatever reason, health issues (mental or physical), bereavement, disenfranchised, whatever, our society is so rich that you should be able to eat and have somewhere warm to sleep at night without being forced to perform labour against your will.
To make matters worse, this is coming from the Labour party...
I'm not saying nobody should work. I'm not saying there's no benefit to work. I'm saying it shouldn't be forced upon us just to exist. That's just slavery with extra steps.
Why should we all have to work just to survive
where do you think your food comes from? Who build the room you sleep in?
with that being said, our labour is severely abused by the owner class as we barely get enough out of it to pay the bills.
Your debt to society is repaid very quickly while working a 40hr a week job
Every cost a regular person incurrs on society is paid back with roughly working 1/5th-1/4th of their life.
Instead we work until death and kids today will not be allowed to retire
Fuck you for being so easy to control
Fuck you for being so easy to control
Steady on chap. No need to start insulting people.
This idiot does not have much reading comprehension...
Lol no these idiots deserve to be chastised
We've coddled the idiots too long in the US and look where it's brought us, I'm done personally coddling idiots and fascists* in idiocracy for the sake of politeness
fasciats
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You can chastise their ideas without insulting them. It makes you look like a crazy person. Do you want to change people's minds or simply shout at them?
And if you can't do that, well that's rather sad.
Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake like a pedant, I'm on mobile.
We tried coddling fascists and all it does is validate their garbage beleifs, we're past trying to convince horrible people that they are horrible and are now at the stage where we have to protect ourselves and make sure the people who got us here never forget how they shit their own pants just to make us all smell it
If someone voted for Trump make sure they know how fucking dumb they are, and if they still whine wanting to be friends after voting to hurt you then tell them they were even dumber for thinking that was a possibility after taking actions to hurt you
Let me remind you how you responded to this:
Why should we all have to work just to survive
where do you think your food comes from? Who build the room you sleep in?
with that being said, our labour is severely abused by the owner class as we barely get enough out of it to pay the bills.
You told the poster "to go fuck themselves for being easy to control". How do you go from being in a discussion about the level of work society has to ask of it's citizens to telling the person you're responding to to go fuck themselves to now saying that because they don't agree with you they're a fascist? 🤣 I mean you have to laugh as the poster acknowledged that the level is skewed to the owning classes and you still attack them.
Take a step back and reassess your comments. 👍
Only a fool would spend their entire life working to pay off their debt to society when it only takes a fraction, yes you are stupid for wanting to waste your life and make others do the same just so the rich can siphon our excess value produced.
I get that everyone takes resources, you are acting like a smug slave, a fool
Okie dokie buddy 👍
You're missing the forest for the trees. Read the first paragraph again
P.S. my food generally comes from my garden...