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Edit: to clarify: the message in the ad is actually ironic/satirical, mocking the advice for cyclists to wear high-viz at night.

It uses the same logic but inverts the parts and responsabilities, by suggesting to motorists (not cyclists) to apply bright paint on their cars.

So this ad is not pro or against high-viz, it's against victim blaming

Cross-posted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/113544508246569296

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[–] weker01@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 hours ago

I actually fully agree with the message. Bring back bright colors for cars!

Also participating in traffic at night is always a risk so wearing at least a bit of high-viz is just to minimize that. It's not like we are wearing it in jobs for the look.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The number of dumbasses I see biking against traffic with no lights wearing black well after dark is too high for me to find this remotely serious.

Also, cars have a dozen reflectors, daytime running lights, and a ton of safety mechanisms.

Tldr: meme better, this is wrong and unsafe

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

A lot of the posts here read like the OPs don't actually know anything about cars. Or roads. Or traffic laws. Or common sense.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

That bimmer looks sick

Not sure if the intended message is really coming through...

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Seconding this opinion; I really wish non-commercial vehicles were prohibited from defaulting to black/white/silver/grey - being back the skittles colour palette!

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Bringing back that yellow-ass SER Sentra paint for your BMW lmao.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So double consonant rule, that's pronounced like dimmer but with a 'b', right?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Apparently (this is like 2nd/3rd hand and I could be misremembering) - BMW motorbikes are ‘Beemers’, while BMW cars are ‘Bimmers’ (rhymes with dimmers).

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 31 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Cars have lights on them?

Yes, yes they do.

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 35 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Bikes have lights on them too.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

From my experience, usually they don't. Even the ones that do aren't to the same degree as a car is required to. I want biking to be better than driving, so this is not an anti-bike comment. Maybe we need to add a requirement for bikes to have lights like we require for cars?

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

In this thread: difference in worldwide laws. In the Netherlands you get fined 65+ eur per broken or missing light on your bike. Checks are frequent.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

With all all the ebikes out there it is trivial to add a headlight, brake lights, turn signals, and marker lights and require them to be used and maintained like any other road worthy vehicle.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 13 hours ago

Ideally. In the US you regularly see peeps riding without even reflectors. It’s insanity.

[–] Mrfiddles@feddit.nl 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you're in the Netherlands, where 2/3rds of the bikes will have the shitty "this is legally a light" LEDs from the convenience shops... Oh, and 2/3rds of those will be either out of battery, or installed facing the wrong way.

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Must be a big city problem. I do see them, but the majority uses proper mounted lights.

One upside of those illegal fat bikes is that the lights usually work just fine, making them easy to see.

[–] Mrfiddles@feddit.nl 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm in a university town, so it's probably more of a problem here 😅

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 25 points 23 hours ago (33 children)

When I'm on the road, I want to be visible. On my red motorcycle I wear a bright yellow helmet and a jacket with hi-viz strips. The problem is that car manufacturers only offer boring colors and charge an exorbitant fee for a cool color if they offer them at all.

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[–] FatCat@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The satire misses the mark since cars already have strict mandatory visibility requirements by law. In the EU, you must have working headlights, brake lights, turn signals, daytime running lights (since 2011), fog lights, reverse lights, and reflectors. Driving without any of these gets you fined, points on your license, and fails vehicle inspection (TÜV/MOT). These aren't optional safety suggestions like cyclist hi-viz - they're legal requirements with real penalties.

I don't know about yankee laws...

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Huh? Could you explain once more why this doesn't work?

Keep in mind that cycling also has a lot of visibility requirements, it is illegal to drive without lights at night, you need to have reflectors front, back, in the spokes and on the pedals. This also results in fines and points on your drivers license. Keep any remarks on enforcements for yourself, car drivers don't check or even fix their headlights the moment they break either as my last few drives showed me.

Comparing the optional wearing of hi-vis west to the optional painting cars a brighter colour makes sense when the goal is to mock the immediate question "well, was the cyclist wearing hi-vis?" that always seem to pop up when a crash happens.

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