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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 21 points 3 days ago (32 children)
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[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But who will pay for our campaigns if we don't lick the boot of oligarchs?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Before the 1980s that used to be the unions paying and funding campaigns. The reason Democrats started chasing and boot-licking oligarchs. Is because the unions stopped funding elections and campaigns at the rate they had been before the 1980s. If you can figure out why that was. There were two solid hints given. Then we could probably understand why they're seeking funding from oligarchs. And how we should probably go about changing that.

People love to complain about Democrats begging for oligarchs money without understanding why. Which helps the oligarchs. And gives them even more control over the DNC than they would have otherwise. I'm not saying we should accept the oligarch funding and ownership. But until we come to terms with why that came to be and address it appropriately. It won't end anytime soon.

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[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Simpson's Skinner meme, "no, it's the voters that are wrong"

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[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 29 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Wait, so apparently Americans don't want neoliberal economic policies so they didn't vote for Kamala, but instead voted for Trump and his neoliberal economic policies?

This shit is stupid and old already. It reeks of people using unhealthy coping mechanism to deal with the idea that the average American shifted even further right.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Trump verbally promised to change the system. Harris said the system is doing great, you're doing great, anyone who says they aren't doing great doesn't understand the economic genius that is Biden's economy.

The predictable happened. Democrats were warned when Biden tried to take a victory lap on the economy in 2023. They ignored that warning and didn't attempt to pass legislation they knew was required. Even if they failed they could have been seen fighting for the people. We know they knew what the required legislation is because Biden suddenly promised national rent controls right before being forced to step aside. Then Harris silently kept them in her campaign but didn't highlight them again until a week before the election. When she was desperate.

Until Democrats actually show, in their actions, that they're fighting for the working class, the beatings will continue. And no shutting down strikes and one vote on minimum wage isn't going to cut it. They need to be in the news every week on some aspect of the financial pain the working class feels, and repeats are not only okay, but necessary. A term has 208 weeks in it, that's enough to press several issues. They can also do a quarterly podcast, this entire idea of silently governing was proven inferior by FDR. Even Obama had the petition system which generated national conversations. People do not expect that a quiet government is doing something. In fact they are suspicious of it.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump’s economic policies aren’t neoliberal so much as mercantilist. He wants tariffs and trade wars. (There’s obviously also a dash of fascist policies where he wants companies to serve him.)

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[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 27 points 4 days ago (13 children)

1/3 of voting age Americans voted for Trump (that 3rd wants fascism)... 1/3 for Kamala, and 1/3 stayed home... A lot of the 1/3 that stayed home did so because they don't want neolib policy, and probably a lot of the 1/3 that voted for her also don't want neolib policy. There's very little to support the idea that anyone "shifted right"... They shifted home when they weren't given an option to vote against genocide and other neolib bullshit

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The message to Democrats is clear: (insert your agenda here)

Boring

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

The message is that they did absolutely nothing wrong and are in fact incapable of doing anything wrong. They cannot fail, only be failed by the stupid voters.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Based on the assumption that it was some economic issue, that lost them the votes, this article is pretty good.

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