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[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Should be noted that in Norway it is not just for war, but rather any emergency like natural disasters or someone takes out critical infrastructure in a digital attack etc.

You can see all the information that is sent out here: https://www.sikkerhverdag.no/en/

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Should be noted that in Norway it is not just for war, but rather any emergency like natural disasters or someone takes out critical infrastructure in a digital attack etc.

A digital attack would be an act of war, though, so...

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

No, digital attacks happen all the time, nobody will go to war over it.

Example of only one type of attack in real time: https://www.digitalattackmap.com/#anim=1&color=0&country=ALL&list=0&time=18763&view=map

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not necessarily.

It could be something as simple as "oops, someone downloaded a file they shouldn't have, and now all the systems of the power grid in a quarter of the country has been encrypted by ransomware"

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

If the July 19th Crowdstrike incident had affected Linux rather than Windows, the impact would have been orders of magnitude worse.

People have so little awareness of how fragile the systems we rely on are - it's not a matter of "if" - it's a matter of "when" we'll see a widespread incident that goes well beyond a mild inconvenience for most.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Norway also advises residents to stock up on essential medicines – including iodine tablets, in case of a nuclear incident – and, like Sweden, recommends that people have several bank cards and keep a ready supply of cash at home.

Iodine is something that's hard to get in modern diets, which is why salt is iodized.

Our body uses it in our thyroid, and atomic weapons send out a shit ton of fallout. A significant amount is radioactive iodine, which is going to be hanging around for a while.

If your body picks it up, you now have a radioactive element accumulating in your throat, which is a pretty bad place to store a radioactive mass.

If you don't have iodine tablet, eat a crazy amount of iodized salt. You want to make sure if your body runs into radioactive iodine, it's already full up and can't hold anymore.

[–] troybot@midwest.social 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wonder if there's a way to extract the iodine to avoid getting high blood pressure from eating fistfuls of salt

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

You could just buy iodine tablets now...

But the high blood pressure from salt might kill you decades later.

A radioactive thyroid would make you wish for death as your lower jaw rots away and eventually falls off.

Don't half ass it because of a fear of heart disease. A large dose kills cells in your thyroid (still terrible) a moderate dose wouldn't kill the cells but almost guarantee rapid onset cancer.

It's why the tablets aren't "enough that your body needs" they're "a literal insane amount". Like take your daily requirement times 3-5 years level of crazy.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Fascist dictators on a war path hate this one weird trick!

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[–] NewWorldOverHere@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Here are the recommended dosages for potassium iodide tablets from the New York State government website.

https://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/radiological/potassium_iodide/information_for_the_public.htm #

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