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Seriously i have zero idea what is going on with bluesky. I never used it. Why are people saying it's centralised? I also heard that a lot of people are joining it.

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[โ€“] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The problem I see with BlueSky is, what's the difference between Bluesky and Twitter?

Did any learning take place? "Okay, clean sheet design, let's do it again but better this time" what did they do to keep Bluesky from going the exact same direction Twitter did?

[โ€“] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've been using it a couple of weeks and loving it. It's just the way Twitter used to be - fun, quality content, from the people you choose to follow.

No algorithm trying to feed you recommendations. No paid-for blue ticks. No hate-filled bile being ignored or endorsed by those in charge. If someone's trolling you block/report them and they're gone, just like that.

At the moment it's more or less everything Twitter should be. It may or may not last, but for the moment it's great.

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[โ€“] baronvonj@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

The moderation and blocking on BlueSky set it apart from Twitter.

[โ€“] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (12 children)

It doesn't promote and endorse literal Nazis. Why y'all pretending like this isn't a big difference?

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[โ€“] otter@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://lemmy.ca/comment/12906744

I talked about it in this comment, which should hopefully still be recent enough to be accurate

It's still too soon to tell what they will do. It's totally possible that they will take the necessary steps to be properly decentralized by transferring control of the registry + protocol to an independent non profit.

Right now I feel that they don't have much of an incentive to do that, since the vast majority of their users won't care.

I would love to be proven wrong

[โ€“] otter@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

As a follow-up, if you have people on Bluesky you want to follow, go for it :) Community is important

There is also a mastodon bluesky bridge that some people use to access both

[โ€“] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 days ago

There's nothing from a user experience currently that makes bluesky bad, it's just that since it doesn't seem to actually support decentralization, there's nothing to stop it from eventually getting just as bad as twitter over time due to profit incentive. Misskey/mastodin are the only microblogging platforms that are truly immune from corporate manipulation and enshittification, which would mean it's a long term solution (that while imperfect, can only get better).

[โ€“] hono4kami@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

It has some flaw, but overall it's actually usable.

[โ€“] grte@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One of the best reasons to want ActivityPub (or similar software) to become the primary way that social media sites are populated with information is that it divorces the particular front end you use from the content that is displayed. Meaning that if, in the future, someone writes a new front end that is better/faster/whatever it doesn't have to (most likely fail to) fight the network effect to have enough content to be worth using. So you don't have a David vs Goliath situation for every new, innovative social media site to get off the ground. Never mind Mastodon or Lemmy or Misskey or Mbin. Maybe ten years down the line there are a host of newer and better fediverse sites that are usable right off the bat because they have the same content available that these current sites have. Look at what a trial it's been to get any new social media site off the ground (Bluesky included). It's in every user's interest to remove individual sites' ability to squash competition via the network effect.

Bluesky's model of decentralization does not allow for this so far as I know.

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

JWZ ยป "I prefer to meet people where they are" says reasonable-sounding white dude holding court at a table in the back of a Nazi Bar.

It's Bluesky. The Nazi Bar is Bluesky.

"Now that Dorsey has bailed as a board member and principal funder, Bluesky's DNA is basically [TESCREAL / Effective Altruist] people. It gets worse. Blockchain Capital LLC was co-founded by Steve Bannon pal Brock Pierce, a major crypto advocate, perennial presidential candidate, and close friend of Eric Adams. Pierce has dozens of other shady MAGA/Russia ties as well."


Cory Doctorow ยป Bluesky and enshittification

[โ€“] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's another oligarch owned platform?

[โ€“] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago
[โ€“] HarbingerOfTomb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bluesky, as a user feels like Twitter used to be.

Threads is the most enjoyable, I feel.

Mastodon, I don't get. I've been on it awhile but it's becoming used less and less by me because I don't see content I'm interested in our want to engage with and I don't know how to change it.

Essentially, everyone is on bsky now. News organizations FINALLY decided to leave Twitter and are spinning up their bsky accounts.

[โ€“] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I assume Mastodon is equally capable of recommending things, but if it's a common problem that people aren't patient enough with then it could be fatal. It's still an open question whether federation as its been used thus far is really there yet. I'm not entirely convinced, I'm glad it's being tried. I'll take a stab at it, I've worked on P2P distributed key-value storage for years. No huge ambitions though, I don't really care about this use case. My conception of federation is closer to newsgroups, ideally it's a global namespace for a topic but the feed is controllable by, effectively, a federated moderator web-of-trust that users can selectively opt into and demote mods as a personal preference. Maybe someone else can do it because I'm so disinterested.

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[โ€“] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

I don't have strong opinions about BlueSky (I have an account, I prefer activitypub but it's whatever), but to me I will view it as centralized until someone who is not BlueSky runs a second relay server that is federated with the BlueSky run one.

And based on the writings of one of the creators of activitypub, Christine Lemmer-Webber, there are some hurdles to that happening: https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/

[โ€“] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it works better than twitter

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[โ€“] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is twitter again. Algorithms, adds, pay subscriptions

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[โ€“] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

My only problem with it is that it's boring. Literally Shower Thoughts: The Website (featuring Politics).

Supposedly there are people you can subscribe to to see some actual news and get away from all those boring text posts, but I can't find them and don't know where to look. I even used one of those websites that subscribe you to groups of people en-masse to help get you started, but that just made things worse. Now my feed is full of opinions from people I've never heard of, know nothing of, and couldn't care less about.

I'm sorry but I just don't understand the appeal of this whole Twitter/Twitter clone thing.

[โ€“] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

"Literally Shower Thoughts: The Website (featuring Politics)."

Wasnt that basically the premise of Twitter anyways?

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