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Summary

President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (31 children)

Reading through these comments and seeing people excuse this because trump is worse validates the race-to-the-bottom strategy that republicans and democrats cooperate on. Republicans will keep lowering the bar while democrats will continue hovering slightly above that bar as their only differentiator and we're all on the ride on the way down.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The gun crime is bullshit. That law isn't enforced on anyone. It's also probably unconstitutional if you follow the conservative understanding of that amendment (which is complete bullshit, but that's beside the point).

Tax evasion, sure. That maybe shouldn't be pardoned but also it's only an issue because he's the president's son. I don't dismiss this, but also I recognize that it's mostly bullshit Republicans drummed up because they couldn't get anything on Biden.

I will point out to every conservative who defends Trump who says anything about this though. Trump is literally a convicted felon, and multiple cases are being dismissed because he was elected. If they think Hunter shouldn't get off free, then they better have some strong reasons Trump should.

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 104 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He said he wouldn't but at this point Joe might as well YOLO idk anymore.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 95 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It would be cool if he went out in a blaze of glory that wasn't self serving. Like legalizing weed, arming Ukraine, and just generally trying to fuck shit up for Trump before he gets in.

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

precedent.

Yeah that hasn't mattered for about a decade now.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (36 children)

I've been a supporter since I was first able to vote for Obama's first term. Not anymore, guys. You don't do enough for us but virtue-signal when you have the ability to and you only think about yourselves when you don't. I just don't believe in them. They don't stop fascism, they pause it, and in some cases, contribute to it by their cowardice, and pardoning his son is just taking a shit on all of us right before he leaves.

I fully intend to do as much for the Democratic party of America going forward, as they have done for me, by ignoring them and pretending they don't exist.

then the fascists will win

What's this will shit? Buckle up, buttercup. The time for voting has passed. We're in the endgame now.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Well, the majority of the voting public were pretty clear about not giving a shit about using pardon power for family or even former henchmen. If it's ok to not only pardon your son-in-law's dad, but to also give him a plum European diplomatic post (!), it's ok for any other president as well, no?

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fuck it, I'd do the same. Potentially 25 years in prison for non-violent crimes is ridiculous. Might as well use the power to prevent it while you still have it.

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[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Not American, so forgive me if I don't understand the full context, but why is this more upsetting then when Trump pardoned a relative or when Clinton did it?

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Biden specifically said he wouldn't and then he did, that simple. And everyone knew it was a lie then, so it's all just coming to fruition.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of conservatives in here pretending they care.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 67 points 2 days ago

This is SUPREME CORRUPTION! What next? He's going to Appointment Family Members to Government Positions? Allow the Highest Bidders to Buy OVERSIGHT Positions? SELL Pardons? DISGUSTING!

[–] 0xb@lemm.ee 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

i would have said 'no' a little while ago but now fuck it, the people have spoken. the problem now is that he isn't doing enough fuckery to benefit the people. supreme court declared that the president is above the law and he isn't doing anything with that. sc did it for trump but biden could and should use it. literally send everything on the dod depot to ukraine, give unlimited funds to solar and wind, forgive every loan and shoot modafukin steve bannon in the face

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