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[–] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 hours ago

i joined .ml as it was the first instance i come across when trying lemmy out. Iv heard the admins are tankies but to be honest i dont actually know what a tankie is. i just use lemmy to look at memes and follow foss communities. i try to block all political stuff as i want to enjoy my exprience and stay ignorant to the politics here.

[–] Sparrowette@lemmy.zip 23 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Humans really can't keep their hands out of the tribalism cookie jar.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"I really wish people would stop judging me for being part of the 'Pro-Genocide Club', I'M not pro-genocide!"

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Votes for a little bit of genocide, as a treat

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You can't change where or how you're born, but you can change what instance you're on with almost no impact to yourself. Maybe spend ten, fifteen minutes on copying your subscriptions over manually. It's like changing out of a T-shirt with really unfortunate text you couldn't read before putting it on, one of the greatest benefits of federation.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 6 hours ago
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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Even though I came from reddit, I approach comments on their own merits and I don't downvote just for disagreeing with someone.

We are not the same.

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 hours ago

Nah, my comments are all pretty dumb. OP's logic checks out.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 26 points 12 hours ago (16 children)

As a resident of a politically indifferent instance that is on good terms with everyone, I can say one thing:

Fuck absolutely everyone who turns Lemmy into yet another Internet battlefield.

Leave .ml alone. Leave Hexbear alone. Even yes - leave Lemmygrad alone. People there will not change their opinion when facing hatred, and newbies coming there doesn't change the big picture, as Lemmy is federated and they can figure stuff out for themselves.

Trying to silence entire instances, especially the biggest ones, is absolutely not a welcoming picture to whoever's coming here, and being cut out and filtered for happening to choose the "wrong" instance is the worst possible greeting.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

Plenty of us tried that. We weren't the ones that turned it into a political Battlefield. I didn't start out blocking their communities and servers. I'm a pragmatist. Actually largely against people who are blindly ideological regardless of the ideology. Even if I tend to personally identify with the anarchist Spectrum.

Hell lemmygrad and hexbear weren't banned because of their politics. They were banned because of their behavior. Anyone who behaved like so many of them did should have been banned regardless of politics. Lemmy.world was de-federated by certain servers for far far less.

And if you want to exist in a bubble. Then by all means please do. But don't admonish other people for not doing so. Ignoring politics and being ignorant of politics is in large part how so many of the problems we have today were created. People left alone at the levers of power who should never have had any business. All because people were content and ignorant.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 0 points 1 hour ago

So if there was a instance called "obviously a bunch of Nazis" and we're all openly Nazis. You would be fine with that? Or am I missing the point?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I have no problems with tankies expressing there opinions. The problem is when someone points out they are wrong they get mad and if the mods are tankie they ban you. If not they just get mad and start name calling.

In a nutshell I think they should be allowed as long as they follow the rules. Same for everyone else.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, from my pov, it's not about silencing their opinions as much as it is wanting to avoid their authority because they abuse it to push their opinions.

Same reason I ultimately left Reddit. Admins were making choices I didn't like and forcing them on their users. The new site and official app both suck, but I had the option of using other apps or the old site. Even the old site isn't a great experience on mobile vs some 3rd party apps, but then they killed off the apps in a way that looked like they weren't being honest about (though in hindsight it was more about wanting to price access for AI training than specifically wanting to kill the 3rd party apps imo).

Lemmy isn't immune from any of that, but the impact isn't as high because federation gives options. And corruption turns into more of a game of whack a mole instead of "throw lots of money at the one entity controlling it" like Reddit and Twitter.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I made the mistake of not knowing I was on an .ml community and disagreed with a post using, y'know, facts, and was downvoted to shit because my reply didn't jive with the room's echo chamber. I don't know what you mean by "leave(ing) them alone" when their brand of hate and bullshittery bleeds into the "All" feed. We're supposed to welcome that? Paradox of tolerance and all that. If someone joins one of those instances I kinda find it hard to believe that they wouldn't check out and stick with what they're attracted to in the first place.

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