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[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 127 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The media is really gonna rerget bring this up lol

Whatever that effect thing is... Millions of people across the world gonna be readong ol Uncle Ted's ramblings which are aging quite well unlike the corporatist trash raygoon and politicians shilled for the last 40 years

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've also seen them try to smear him as an elite because he went to a school that they spelled out cost 40,000 a year.

All that tells me is that he was on track to shut up and claim a privileged position, but destroyed that to send a message of conscience.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/person-of-interest-in-fatal-shooting-of-unitedhealthcare-boss-brian-thompson-idd-as-luigi-mangione-an-ex-ivy-league-student/

Man the owners hate him. I hope they continue to overplay their hand on that.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And he is from affluent Maryland family.

Good for him... Still a chad jaja

We don't pick our heros, they come as they are

He clearly sees the same thing rest of workers see.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It means even more when you're born into a position to just take the money and live like a pharoah on all of our backs as almost all born into such circumstances do...

...but instead choose to fight on behalf of those your class subjugates and murders for profit.

That is more than desperation. That is more than vengeance. That is conscience.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's a software guy. The difference between his take home pay which covers the cost of living, some hobbies, and a car, and a guy worth $50,000,000 is about $49,800,000.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 1 week ago

I saw shit floating on reddit or twitter is that his family has money. they own shit. again could be misinformation but it tracks with UPen background.

with that being said IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER.

His work speaks for itself, and I am interested to hear what he has to say more than any media or regime talking head selling their ass for a few million.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude is literally batman, just without the dead parents. May he walk free. So hope he is smart and shuts up and lawyer up.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't Batman make it a point not to shoot anyone with a gun?

I'm not sure "literally" is the right word.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

He's the Batman we deserve.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 22 points 1 week ago

yeah I remeber in the 90's thinking he was a nutter and I forgot about it in the early aughts but when someone brought it up in the teens I reread and was like. holy crap. Im a doomer type and I will often say its just were the math takes me. He was a mathemetician and kinda the original doomer.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah with a bit of editing it would have mass appeal

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We really need to get someone to edit down Marx's writings into TikTok brainrot format.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We already did, it's Dolly Parton's "Nine to Five"

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Except Dolly’s song isn’t brain rot.

That book really could stand to have had a good editor.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is easily something that would appear in subs or communities. Antiwork, workreform, boringdystopia, collapse, latestagecapitalism… I’d be surprised if there weren’t existing multiple posts mirroring what he wrote, minus any Unabomber references.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 week ago

i do want to know who would down vote you on this... i aint even gay but bro is a total chad and the ladies on tiktok agree haha

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lost a star for writing "You can’t have your cake and eat it too," in the wrong order

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which way did he write it?

In case anyone doesn't know, "can't eat your cake and have it too" is the correct order because once you eat it it's gone and you can't have it.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except it doesn't, the most popular order is nonsensical and Ted was right about it.

If someone asks you what you did yesterday, do you usually list events at random, or do you list them in chronological order? Sentences with multiple clauses are ordered by timeline by default.

So, of course you can have a cake and eat it too, you just won't have a cake anymore at end of the sentence. What's impossible is to eat the cake and still have if after that.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

If you're going to go to that level then I counter with you still have the cake after eating it.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Interesting if only because this suspect being touted on social media as being the shooter is giving off Uni-bubba vibes

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Police are likely combing through social media accounts belonging to Mangione.

I wonder what his Lemmy username is.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I couldn't access his GitHub profile yet, but I wonder if his GitHub Gist have something... I dunno... Maybe a manifesto hidden within the code snippet (through steganography or ciphered message).

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He doesn’t seem that subtle. I think it would be right there for us. He didn’t care if he got caught.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you're right, if he was caught carrying an explicit manifesto with him while he was in a McDonalds, he indeed doesn't seem discrete and subtle.

I thought about the possibility of hidden messages left by him due to three reasons: firstly, because he seem to have left "riddle-like breadcrumbs" (the Monopoly money inside a backpack, the writing on the bullets, etc) which sounds like a puzzle to be solved. Second, because he's both a programmer and an AI-enthusiast, he's even Master in Computer Sciences (IIRC), which does involve lots of math passion and logic. Last but not least, because I'm also a programmer and I like math, unorthodox thinking, ciphering, steganography and cryptography.

My apologies for the long text ahead...

But to contextualize: ciphering is a set of techniques used to conceal a message behind a code (for example, Caesar cipher, Vigenere cipher, Playfair cipher and so on), while steganography is a set of artistic techniques used to hidden a message in plain sight (for example, a text hidden within the initials of another text, as in how the seemingly innocuous phrase "He is definitely driving every night" hides the word "HIDDEN": just notice each initial letter from every word).

You see, most platforms have a "Scunthorpe problem" when a message triggers a false alarm due to an isolated word or string (sequence of letters) which otherwise would be dependent on a surrounding context. And I myself suffered several "Scunthorpe" censorship episodes throughout the social platforms, especially after the emergence of LLMs and Sentiment Analysis models, due to specific choices of words, for example.

Publishing ipsis literis an anti-capitalist manifesto that is definitely seen as "extreme" and "radical" by many people is something very likely to trigger algorithms, especially in major social platforms (such as Facebook, even X). This is easily circumvented through ciphering and steganography because LLMs can't (yet) understand ciphered texts (with maybe the exception of simple alphabet substitution ciphers such as Caesar shift which is something really straightforward for LLMs to decipher), let alone steganographies (due to how LLMs struggle basic lexical tasks such as counting how many "R"s are there in the word "strawberry", and hiding a message within the initials of another message is not the only way of steganography, there are many many other techniques). Some platforms have more censorship than others, and while GitHub isn't used to deliver everyday messaging, its GitHub Gists is a perfect platform for unconventional thinkers to publish something (concealed within a code) that wouldn't be welcomed on platforms such as Facebook.

A person like Luigi, a tech-savvy, a programmer, a master in Computer Science, AI-enthusiastic, someone deeply dissatisfied with the status quo, someone who seems to navigate across several fields of knowledge (therefore, a polymath kind of person), such person is someone very likely to be an unconventional thinker, almost in the edge of being a real-life Elliot Alderson (edit: he's not, see below). I can sort of visualize how such a person could think outside the box and creating a whole puzzle with digital breadcrumbs, comparable to a Cicada 3301 back in the past... (because I dealt with similar things throughout my entire digital life since the Orkut times, puzzles and riddles involving ciphering, linguistics, math, art, cultural and historical references, because it's something that pleased me both to create my own puzzles and to solve puzzles from others). Seems like it's not exactly the case for Luigi, tho... Well, perhaps... Things are yet to unfold, I guess.

Edit: I just saw a screenshot of one of his past tweets criticizing someone because they "Overcomplicates everything he says aloud, wasting everyone's mental bandwidth in having to decipher it. The best teachers are the best communicators: clear, succinct, simple language". This sadly rules out every possibility for puzzles and riddles, doesn't seem like a person that really values the beauty of math, linguistics, cryptography, ciphering and steganography. Welp, maybe I went too far in fantasizing some real-life thrilling plot of Elliot Alderson's Fsociety. Anyway, I'm keeping the reply and my explanation about some (perhaps) useful concepts/knowledge (for anyone who finds it useful).

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago

I think he’s more straight forward about his actions, which is good given the context. I don’t think we will have a treasure map to follow.

What we can do is learn from his mistakes.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Pretty darn Fair rating actually