Every thing the gop has done to the usps had hurt it more... but everytime I hear "it doesn't make money" well it did before the absolutely idiotic idea to make sure pensions were super funded forward. Ontop of that. Why the fuck does a government organization need to make money? I hate this whole "run a country like a business" bullshit so much. Money makes everything worse.
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The GOP exists to oppose anything that serves the common good. They exist to transfer public wealth to private interests. That is their entire mandate
Which is why they want to privatize everything... easier to grift from. I just find it hilarious that they take full power, fuck everything up, lose power and point to things saying "see it doesn't work!" And their lapdogs just eat it up. Yes when you cripple something it will fail, and then you blame it or the dems and hey you get to do it again!
Same for public transit.
A bit of compensation isn't a crazy idea, but it doesn't have to break even with the money it does bring in. It's not like we have a ton of toll roads either, it's not an issue to spend billions on another lane or two.
USPS doesn't lose a dime. It's a service. It costs money to run.
You know, like a government office does.
the conservative push to destroy this incredibly successful organization continues. its already been punished more than any other entity by requiring things no other business anywhere is required to.
starve the beast. theyve forced it to make financial considerations that now put it in pretend financial trouble so they can point at it as a failure.
if the USPS was allowed to run as any other business today it would be far more successful on paper than it already is, but conservatives just cant live with that.
Good thing the Democratic administration replaced DeJoy and passed some protections while they were in charge... oh. wait
Can't replace him until a board of people fire him...and they didn't.
There were empty seats on the board that would have tipped the balance, sitting vacant for the entirety of Biden's term.
Not to excuse Biden, because he has fucked up on multiple fronts, but aren't those appointments dependent on Senate confirmations and thus sitting mostly empty under Obama, which let the Cheeto Bandito take over in the first place? And IDK if the Senate would have confirmed any Biden nominees. Wouldn't have hurt to try though.
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it shouldn't have to be 'profitable' in the first place.
yep. no one ever complains about the profitability of our 'defense' system which seems to do more selling than defending.
It was never intended to be. That's why it has the word "service" right there in its name.
The USPS spent $89.5 billion in operations this year, which means that even if they didn't collect a single dime from anybody they could serve everyone in the country with every package and letter that they already did in the entirety of 2024 for about 4.475% of the Defense Department's expenditures in that same time frame -- which are just under two trillion dollars.
The Defense Department as a whole Hoovers up about 24% the Federal budget.
Therefore the fact that the conservatives have successfully bamboozled everyone into believing that the USPS should be run as a "business" in the first place is incredible. Would you support about 0.1 percent of your Federal taxes spent on granting you free Postal Service access forever? I probably would.
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For fuck's sake, it's not meant to make money, it's a public service - it's literally in the name!
I wish more countries governments would get their head out of their capitalistic arses and understand that the services they run aren't meant to be profitable - that's what taxes are meant to be for!
You're going to have to get with the times. Everything has to make money or it's scrapped including us.
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The postal service doesn't lose money, it costs money.
By this logic, the interstate highway system and the military both lose billions! Is Trump going to privatize them too?
Thats not even a true statement.
The postal service makes money, but any surpless is automatically taken by Congress.
In the early 2000s the GOP passed a law requiring the postal service to upfront load the retirement funds of new employees, creating a massive debt burden.
Also, Congress has removed their ability to modernize equipment and fleets, forcing them to continue repairing aged equipment.
Not to mention, DeJoy, Trump's installment during his first term, has done everything he can to dismantle any modernization because he wants the Post Office sold at rock bottom prices so he can buy it, get this, because he owns competing companies.
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Oh, the financial losses that can be directly linked back to Louis DeJoy's actions while in charge to actively sabotage the service, the same DeJoy that Trump appointed to sabotage the service?
They murdered it so they could sell it off, don't let them claim otherwise
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Its almost funny how cartoonishly evil the Republicans are. They literally are shutting down all public utilities, giving contracts to the rich, spending trillions in the name of "cutting spending", kicking out random people, and im pretty sure a Republican has openly decared friendship to be his greatest enemy (because "woke" or smth). If this was a simulation the developers are getting extremely lazy with this plotline, the villans are literally just evil.
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Citing the USPS’s financial losses, Trump argued the agency should not rely on government subsidies.
It already doesn't. USPS is entirely internally funded. What a fucking idiot.
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doesn't USPS have some special legal status? how are supposed to be things like court orders delivered if not by national mail carrier?
Who cares about the Constitution?
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Wow, so wild that the agency you crippled with a nonsensical pension funding requirement is no longer running as efficiently as you demand! what a huge surprise, no one could have seen this coming!
Super cool that the Democrats didn't reverse that insane requirement btw.
Super cool that the Democrats didn't reverse that insane requirement btw.
The Democrats did reverse that insane requirement. In 2022.
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Fuck the fascists. We fought the British over less tyrannical shit than what Trump is promising.
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It isn't a business, it is a service, it costs money that our taxes pay, so we don't have to pay shitty private companies. (And it still makes money) "Let's make the Mail just like ISPs" is a stupid take.
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Given the country's current mood, is it really wise for the oligarchs to threaten the livelihoods of the very group that gave us the expression going postal?
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United Tesla Shipping...UTS
United Tesla Institute... UTI
Shipping Tesla Institution...STI
So many possibilities!
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Yeah, good luck with that.
Sincerely,
The UK, where we already had that stupid fucking idea.
I'm not an accelerationist, but what's left to do now except bathe in the worm glow of our country burning down?
There is no arguing that America doesn't deserve all the bad things, and maybe a good old fashioned conflagration would straighten the survivors out for a generation or two.
I’m not an accelerationist, but what’s left to do now except bathe in the worm glow of our country burning down?
Well it's certainly not enough to just luxuriate in the chaos. Every time Trump makes things worse it's our job to point it out and explain why he's doing it. People won't radicalize on their own! They'll just blame immigrants and woke and DEI etc etc.
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Quid pro Bezos
We need another mangione to put him out of our misery
The Postal Service is in the United States Constitution, Article I:
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Clause 7:
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
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Republicans wish to destroy any public service. That has always been their mission.
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